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pjstroh
pjstroh
Jan 2, 2016
6:47am
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Boiler will go as far as betting PJ that the FBI will find emails proven confidential among Hillary's deleted emails. The bet is a $40 dinner at Boulder Creek. Please hurry on this bet, as it appears that I'm moving to the Chicago area.........................heavy bummage.


Its already a known fact that she had confidential emails on her server. This was not deemed to be illegal. It is an example of how desperately youve moved the goalposts to save face with your original statements.

Your original prediction was that her "hidden" emails would reveal some nefarious crimnal activity that she was trying to cover up. Ill take you up on your original prediction....not the new one you have retreated to
Don
Don
Jan 2, 2016
7:25am
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
oh no, Hillary was right. the GOP frontrunner's rhetoric is being used to recruit terrorists in a video

I wonder who the Clinton campaign hired to make the video, and I'm a little surprised it took them this long to make it. I expected them to fabricate something within a day or two after Hillary lied.
DonDiego suggests the video may not be a campaign fabrication, . . . more likely the Islamists are just taking advice from Secretary Clinton after realizing all she's already done for them.

Boilerman
Boilerman
Jan 2, 2016
6:46pm
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1. Hillary has told us that the 30,000 plus emails that she deleted were personal in nature.

2. I'll bet you a $40 dinner that there are , in fact, government business related emails the she deleted and that the FBI recovers. Furthermore, some of these will be of "classified nature". Hillary, of course, assured us that this couldn't happen, so you must feel pretty good about your odds.




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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Boiler will go as far as betting PJ that the FBI will find emails proven confidential among Hillary's deleted emails. The bet is a $40 dinner at Boulder Creek. Please hurry on this bet, as it appears that I'm moving to the Chicago area.........................heavy bummage.


Its already a known fact that she had confidential emails on her server. This was not deemed to be illegal. It is an example of how desperately youve moved the goalposts to save face with your original statements.

Your original prediction was that her "hidden" emails would reveal some nefarious crimnal activity that she was trying to cover up. Ill take you up on your original prediction....not the new one you have retreated to


pjstroh
pjstroh
Jan 3, 2016
1:20am
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
1. Hillary has told us that the 30,000 plus emails that she deleted were personal in nature.

2. I'll bet you a $40 dinner that there are , in fact, government business related emails the she deleted and that the FBI recovers. Furthermore, some of these will be of "classified nature". Hillary, of course, assured us that this couldn't happen, so you must feel pretty good about your odds.



Huh? It is a known fact that she had both business and confidential emails on her server. This has been a known fact for months and because it was not deemed illegal you desperately made other claims about her criminal activity.

So Like i said - ill take you up on your original, baseless conspiracy theory...that Hillary's emails would reveal some sort of criminal activity she tried to cover up. It probably seems foolish in hindsight that you banged that drum over and over which explains why you are moving the goal posts now.

pjstroh
pjstroh
Jan 3, 2016
1:27am
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
oh no, Hillary was right. the GOP frontrunner's rhetoric is being used to recruit terrorists in a video

I wonder who the Clinton campaign hired to make the video, and I'm a little surprised it took them this long to make it. I expected them to fabricate something within a day or two after Hillary lied.
DonDiego suggests the video may not be a campaign fabrication, . . . more likely the Islamists are just taking advice from Secretary Clinton after realizing all she's already done for them.


Im sure its embarrassing for the righties that Hillary's point proved to be correct: Rhetoric from Xenophobic neandrathals does more harm than good in the war against Islamic extremism.

lest you believe ISIS would spend money and resources on propoganda they belived ineffective...and that they have a vested interest in the US presidential election. Oh wait, i think thats what DonDiego just suggested.
jatki
jatki
Jan 3, 2016
1:47am
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
oh no, Hillary was right. the GOP frontrunner's rhetoric is being used to recruit terrorists in a video

Constipation doesn't make for intelligent foreign policy


I wonder who the Clinton campaign hired to make the video, and I'm a little surprised it took them this long to make it. I expected them to fabricate something within a day or two after Hillary lied.


As soon as I saw the headline, that was my first thought also.
If that was the video shown to Boko Harem in Africa, why weren't the subtitles on it? Do they speak English?, I don't know. Just a thought.

jatki
jatki
Jan 3, 2016
1:55am
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
oh no, Hillary was right. the GOP frontrunner's rhetoric is being used to recruit terrorists in a video

I wonder who the Clinton campaign hired to make the video, and I'm a little surprised it took them this long to make it. I expected them to fabricate something within a day or two after Hillary lied.
DonDiego suggests the video may not be a campaign fabrication, . . . more likely the Islamists are just taking advice from Secretary Clinton after realizing all she's already done for them.


Im sure its embarrassing for the righties that Hillary's point proved to be correct: Rhetoric from Xenophobic neandrathals does more harm than good in the war against Islamic extremism.

lest you believe ISIS would spend money and resources on propoganda they belived ineffective...and that they have a vested interest in the US presidential election. Oh wait, i think thats what DonDiego just suggested.


Um, Hillary claimed that ISIS was showing Trump videos, the claims are that Boko Haram is showing them, but not a big difference. Tomato, to-mah-toe.

Boilerman
Boilerman
Jan 3, 2016
5:36am
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Since PJ hasn't taken the "bite", Boiler will go as far as saying that at minimum there are 1000 government related emails that Hillary deleted. Since PJ is confident of Hillary's honesty, I'm certain that he will agree with this bet.

The bet is $40 in food and beverages for the winner at Boulder Creek. Are you in?


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
1. Hillary has told us that the 30,000 plus emails that she deleted were personal in nature.

2. I'll bet you a $40 dinner that there are , in fact, government business related emails the she deleted and that the FBI recovers. Furthermore, some of these will be of "classified nature". Hillary, of course, assured us that this couldn't happen, so you must feel pretty good about your odds.



Huh? It is a known fact that she had both business and confidential emails on her server. This has been a known fact for months and because it was not deemed illegal you desperately made other claims about her criminal activity.

So Like i said - ill take you up on your original, baseless conspiracy theory...that Hillary's emails would reveal some sort of criminal activity she tried to cover up. It probably seems foolish in hindsight that you banged that drum over and over which explains why you are moving the goal posts now.


chefantwon
chefantwon
Jan 4, 2016
8:45am
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
1. Hillary has told us that the 30,000 plus emails that she deleted were personal in nature.

2. I'll bet you a $40 dinner that there are , in fact, government business related emails the she deleted and that the FBI recovers. Furthermore, some of these will be of "classified nature". Hillary, of course, assured us that this couldn't happen, so you must feel pretty good about your odds.



Huh? It is a known fact that she had both business and Top Secret emails on her server. This has been a known fact for months. rest of sentence removed due to release of Hilliary's email proving the statement incorrect

So Like i said - ill take you up on your original, baseless conspiracy theory...that Hillary's emails would reveal some sort of criminal activity she tried to cover up. Which is closer to being proven after each email release .


Corrected to correspond to what has been found to date....
Don
Don
Jan 4, 2016
9:55am
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: DonDiegoDonDiego suggests the video may not be a campaign fabrication, . . . more likely the Islamists are just taking advice from Secretary Clinton after realizing all she's already done for them.


Im (sic) sure its (sic) embarrassing for the righties that Hillary's point proved to be correct: Rhetoric from Xenophobic neandrathals (sic) does more harm than good in the war against Islamic extremism.

lest you believe ISIS would spend money and resources on propoganda they belived ineffective...and that they have a vested interest in the US presidential election. Oh wait, i think thats (sic) what DonDiego just suggested.
A review of the facts:
__On 19 December 2015 Secretary Hillary stated: "They [ISIS] are going to people showing videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists."

__Within hours Politifact concluded: "We were unable to find any evidence to support this. The Clinton campaign did not provide any evidence that this is already happening -- only that it could be happening, or that it may in the future. If ISIS was using Trump for recruitment videos, we would expect a frenzy of media coverage over it. We rate this claim False."
i.e. Secretary Clinton lied. - DD

__On 2 January 2016 The Washington Post reported "Now, the polarizing Republican presidential front-runner [Mr. Trump] has become the recruitment fodder for another group of marginalized extremists.
A propaganda video released by the Somali-based al-Qaeda affiliate al-Shabab includes a clip of Trump calling on the United States to bar Muslims from entering the country, according to news reports. Trump made the statement following the Islamic State-inspired shootings in San Bernardino, Calif., last month."
n.b. "Somali-based al-Qaeda affiliate al Shabab" is not ISIS.
n.b. The cited video appeared 2 weeks after Secretary Clinton had suggested, falsely that ISIS was showing videos to budding recruits.

__On 2 January DonDiego posted:
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Originally posted by: DonDiegoDonDiego suggests the video may not be a campaign fabrication, . . . more likely the Islamists are just taking advice from Secretary Clinton after realizing all she's already done for them.

n.b. The comment was an alternative to an earlier suggestion that the al-Shabab video had been produced by Secretary Hillary's campaign.
n.b. The comment made no mention of ISIS.

Conclusions:

i. DonDiego made no reference to ISIS.

ii. DonDiego made no reference to ISIS's possible motive in producing a video which, in fact, they did not produce, . . . nor to ISIS's propaganda resources, ISIS's interest in the US Presidential election, or to ISIS's judgement on the effectiveness of a video which they did not produce. (DonDiego has neither knowledge nor opinion on any of these matters.)

iii. This is the sort of thing that happens when someone misinterprets what DonDiego has written, instead of simply quoting what he did say or requesting a clarification from poor old DonDiego himself.
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