Kasich eats pizza with a fork.

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Originally posted by: billryan

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Forkie should tread lightly when speaking about the Clinton, Sanders, and Obama freeloading voters.

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Originally posted by: forkushV

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
I dated a lady for a year from the Upper East Side, and I've been to the island maybe 15 times. My brother lives in Rochester, but as you know, that's east of the Hudson, so it doesn't matter. As I pointed out, if one visits a NY steakhouse, you won't find New York beef. Besides, NYC doesn't respect the balance of the state, since these folks are country bumpkins...

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Maybe, I don't know. But could it be because New York City SUPPORTS the freeloaders in the rest of the state. Outside of NYC and the downstate suburbs, the rest of New York State residents receive about 50% more in government services than they pay in taxes.

And who is paying for the extra services the non-NYC counties receive? It's the residents of New York City. At least the bumpkins could show some gratitude.

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I would point out that outside of the Metropolitan area, the rest of the state is overwhelmingly Republilican, but he knows that.I'd also point out that nationwide, Republican voting states are the ones sucking on the public teat, but boils doesn't deal in facts. He starts with moronic positions and then digs in.

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Originally posted by: billryan
Here is something for bm to ponder.
If black households in the US are a bit under 14% of the population, but between 47 and 51 % of all households in the US get Government assistance, what race is actually getting the most. I know you like to use the code words-"poor blacks" and such, but its actually folks just like yourself, uneducated whites, who get the majority of the aid we give.
As Walter Kelly famously wrote years ago " We have met the enemy, and he is us"

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Originally posted by: billryan
In NY State, as an example, in 2012 NY State collected roughly 38 billion in Individual State Income Tax. Sales tax and sales assessments raised just over 29 billion and Property taxes came to just under 30 billion. Sales tax is paid to the state, but a good chunk of it is given to the counties and villages. The counties together get more than half the sales tax revenue returned to them, and hardly any part of the Property Tax bill leaves your local county, much of it goes to schools and local government.
I know I pay several times more in property tax than in NY State Income tax. I collect more in Sales Tax for them than I pay in Income Tax.
Different people will have different results. My Aunt pays over $50,000 a year in Property Tax and almost nothing in Income tax.

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Originally posted by: Roulette Man

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Originally posted by: billryan
In NY State, as an example, in 2012 NY State collected roughly 38 billion in Individual State Income Tax. Sales tax and sales assessments raised just over 29 billion and Property taxes came to just under 30 billion. Sales tax is paid to the state, but a good chunk of it is given to the counties and villages. The counties together get more than half the sales tax revenue returned to them, and hardly any part of the Property Tax bill leaves your local county, much of it goes to schools and local government.
I know I pay several times more in property tax than in NY State Income tax. I collect more in Sales Tax for them than I pay in Income Tax.
Different people will have different results. My Aunt pays over $50,000 a year in Property Tax and almost nothing in Income tax.

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You are never going to have the poor paying less overall taxes (income, property, sales) than the rich unless you abolish property taxes and sales tax. The rich still pay far more property taxes and sales taxes per capita than the poor.

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Originally posted by: forkushV

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Originally posted by: Roulette Man

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Originally posted by: billryan
In NY State, as an example, in 2012 NY State collected roughly 38 billion in Individual State Income Tax. Sales tax and sales assessments raised just over 29 billion and Property taxes came to just under 30 billion. Sales tax is paid to the state, but a good chunk of it is given to the counties and villages. The counties together get more than half the sales tax revenue returned to them, and hardly any part of the Property Tax bill leaves your local county, much of it goes to schools and local government.
I know I pay several times more in property tax than in NY State Income tax. I collect more in Sales Tax for them than I pay in Income Tax.
Different people will have different results. My Aunt pays over $50,000 a year in Property Tax and almost nothing in Income tax.

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You are never going to have the poor paying less overall taxes (income, property, sales) than the rich unless you abolish property taxes and sales tax. The rich still pay far more property taxes and sales taxes per capita than the poor.

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Duh. But the wealthy pay a MUCH lower total tax rate than the poor, particularly at the state level. As long as you are honest enough to admit it, we can agree to disagree whether or not it is right.

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Originally posted by: billryan
Now I'm confused. Do you agree that rich people pay lower local tax rates on their income or not? Its not rocket science. Nor is an opinion. Its math.

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