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I remember looking at the bulletin board in college and someone had posted a page trying to sell their notes for some class and it read "I have some real good notes for sale[." I recall walking away shaking my head. Now I don't have the best grasp of english and proper use of it, but this is third grade stuff.
Real transparent?..uhhhh,right.
Kaine on Emails: Clinton and I Will Be 'Real Transparent'
Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., appeared on NBC's "Meet the Press" and found himself having to answer questions about former Sec. Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server. Questions that he and Clinton will continue to face, especially since the former Secretary of State seems to raise more questions every time she gives an answer on the topic.
In an interview on "Fox News Sunday" last week, Clinton claimed FBI director James Comey found her answers on the controversy "truthful" and "consistent" with her past public statements. That comment earned her a "4 Pinocchio" rating from the Washington Post fact-checker...
Did someone mention the Washington Post fact-checker?
"Likewise, The Washington Post Fact-Checker has awarded its worst ranking, Four Pinocchios, to 16 percent of Clinton’s statements that it checked and to 64 percent of Trump’s.
'Essentially, Clinton is in the norm for a typical politician,' says Glenn Kessler, who runs Fact-Checker, while Trump 'is just off the charts. There’s never been anyone like him, at least in the six years I have been doing this.'”
jatki, better not mention the fact-checkers until after election day, or it won't be pretty.
You gotta be kidding. Whatevber crap Trump has said nowhere nears the whoppers the hill has said. The hill has perjured herself to the FBI AND the United States Senate...
Prove it. Until you do, I'll rely on the opinion of YOUR source, who says that Hillary is a typical politician when it comes to honesty, but that Trump is off the charts.
Sigh...you are so so tiring, here's a transcript w/ a video in it showing that the hill perjured herself to both the FBI and the Senate, that trumps (HAHA, get it? trumps it?) anything that Trump has said. Also I don't give a shit what you say, even the wash. post gave her 4 pinnochios(sp?).
Here's a full transcript of the exchange:
Gowdy: Good morning, Director Comey. Secretary Clinton said she never sent or received any classified information over her private e-mail, was that true?
Comey: Our investigation found that there was classified information sent.
Gowdy: It was not true?
Comey: That's what I said.
Gowdy: OK. Well, I'm looking for a shorter answer so you and I are not here quite as long. Secretary Clinton said there was nothing marked classified on her e-mails sent or received. Was that true?
Comey: That's not true. There were a small number of portion markings on I think three of the documents.
Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said "I did not e-mail any classified information to anyone on my e-mail there was no classified material." That is true?
Comey: There was classified information emailed.
Gowdy: Secretary Clinton used one device, was that true?
Comey: She used multiple devices during the four years of her term as Secretary of State.
Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said all work related emails were returned to the State Department. Was that true?
Comey: No. We found work related email, thousands, that were not returned.
Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said neither she or anyone else deleted work related emails from her personal account.
Comey: That's a harder one to answer. We found traces of work related emails in — on devices or in space. Whether they were deleted or when a server was changed out something happened to them, there's no doubt that the work related emails that were removed electronically from the email system.
Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said her lawyers read every one of the emails and were overly inclusive. Did her lawyers read the email content individually?
Comey: No.
Gowdy: Well, in the interest of time and because I have a plane to catch tomorrow afternoon, I'm not going to go through any more of the false statements but I am going to ask you to put on your old hat. Faults exculpatory statements are used for what?
Comey: Well, either for a substantive prosecution or evidence of intent in a criminal prosecution.
Gowdy: Exactly. Intent and consciousness of guilt, right?
Comey: That is right?
Gowdy: Consciousness of guilt and intent? In your old job you would prove intent as you referenced by showing the jury evidence of a complex scheme that was designed for the very purpose of concealing the public record and you would be arguing in addition to concealment the destruction that you and i just talked about or certainly the failure to preserve.
You would argue all of that under the heading of content. You would also — intent. You would also be arguing the pervasiveness of the scheme when it started, when it ended and the number of emails whether
They were originally classified or of classified under the heading of intent. You would also, probably, under common scheme or plan, argue the burn bags of daily calendar entries or the missing daily calendar entries as a common scheme or plan to conceal.
Two days ago, Director, you said a reasonable person in her position should have known a private email was no place to send and receive classified information. You're right. An average person does know not to do that.
This is no average person. This is a former First Lady, a former United States senator, and a former Secretary of State that the president now contends is the most competent, qualified person to be president since Jefferson. He didn't say that in '08 but says it now.
She affirmatively rejected efforts to give her a state.gov account, kept the private emails for almost two years and only turned them over to Congress because we found out she had a private email account.
So you have a rogue email system set up before she took the oath of office, thousands of what we now know to be classified emails, some of which were classified at the time. One of her more frequent email comrades was hacked and you don't know whether or not she was.
And this scheme took place over a long period of time and resulted in the destruction of public records and yet you say there is insufficient evidence of intent. You say she was extremely careless, but not intentionally so.
You and I both know intent is really difficult to prove. Very rarely do defendants announce 'On this date I intend to break this criminal code section. Just to put everyone on notice, I am going to break the law on this date.'
It never happens that way. You have to do it with circumstantial evidence or if you're Congress and you realize how difficult it is prove, specific intent, you will form lathe a statute that allows for gross negligence.
My time is out but this is really important. You mentioned there's no precedent for criminal prosecution. My fear is there still isn't. There's nothing to keep a future Secretary of State or President from this exact same email scheme or their staff.
And my real fear is this, what the chairman touched upon, this double track justice system that is rightly or wrongly perceived in this country. That if you are a private in the Army and email yourself classified information you will be kicked out. But if you are Hillary Clinton, and you seek a promotion to Commander in Chief, you will not be. So what I hope you can do today is help the average person, the reasonable person you made reference to, the reasonable person understand why she appears to be treated differently than the rest of us would be. With that I would yield back.
Has anyone ever told you you're like that annoying little gnat thatgets in your ear and won't quit?
