Liberals and charity

They talk a good game, but they don't actually put their money where their mouth is.

https://money.cnn.com/interactive/pf/charitable-states-map/?iid=EL

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html?_r=0
Rule 101. If you want to influence others on the LVA, figure out how to make hot links. Many of us won't go through the trouble of trying to cut and paste to get to the target. Making a hot link is easier than creating simple syrup. Geez

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Rule 102 . Speak in the third person and denigrate yourself. It evidently has smoothing effects on the weak of mind.
From esteskefauver's source: "Excluding donations to religious charities, Northeasterners outpace Southerners, giving 1.4% of discretionary income to secular charities like the American Red Cross and AmeriCares, compared with 0.9% from their neighbors to the South."

But it's really worse than that because religious charities only channel 10-25% to social welfare programs according to a study conducted by Google and Indiana University. You know, contribute to pay for wings and drinks at the church Superbowl party, and it's a goddamn charity. As if.

Compare that with Planned Parenthood Federation of America which spends over 70% on programs and services.

PPFA is not a charity organization. For tax purposes, they are treated as non-profit or not-for-profit. They are also affiliated with 55 Political Action Committees. How much of their income that is funneled into the 55 different PACS is difficult to determine - the financials on them would take a while for a CPA to dissect. Their income stream is also (intentionally) difficult to understand. Cook the books and hope you don't get caught!

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Originally posted by: forkushV
From esteskefauver's source: "Excluding donations to religious charities, Northeasterners outpace Southerners, giving 1.4% of discretionary income to secular charities like the American Red Cross and AmeriCares, compared with 0.9% from their neighbors to the South."

But it's really worse than that because religious charities only channel 10-25% to social welfare programs according to a study conducted by Google and Indiana University. You know, contribute to pay for wings and drinks at the church Superbowl party, and it's a goddamn charity. As if.

Compare that with Planned Parenthood Federation of America which spends over 70% on programs and services.


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Originally posted by: friedmush
Rule 101. If you want to influence others on the LVA, figure out how to make hot links. Many of us won't go through the trouble of trying to cut and paste to get to the target. Making a hot link is easier than creating simple syrup. Geez

One can bitch about a problem or one can fix a problem.

From money.cnn.com :

(n.b.This is the map from the cited article, but modified (by someone unknown) to emphasize the State of Utah; it was just too hard for poor old DonDiego to get the map on the money.cnn website into his photobucket. Also the color-scale is missing; the lightest color represents 2.5%, the darkest 10.6% - DD)


From ">nytimes.com :
". . . if donations to all religious organizations are excluded, liberals give slightly more to charity than conservatives do. But Mr. Brooks says that if measuring by the percentage of income given, conservatives are more generous than liberals even to secular causes.
In any case, if conservative donations often end up building extravagant churches, liberal donations frequently sustain art museums, symphonies, schools and universities that cater to the well-off. (It’s great to support the arts and education, but they’re not the same as charity for the needy. And some research suggests that donations to education actually increase inequality because they go mostly to elite institutions attended by the wealthy.)
Conservatives also appear to be more generous than liberals in nonfinancial ways. People in red states are considerably more likely to volunteer for good causes, and conservatives give blood more often. If liberals and moderates gave blood as often as conservatives, Mr. Brooks said, the American blood supply would increase by 45 percent.

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Originally posted by: billryan
Rule 102 . Speak in the third person and denigrate yourself. It evidently has smoothing effects on the weak of mind.

Wait a minute, . . . . . . is that unpleasantness which DonDiego is detecting ?
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: friedmush
Rule 101. If you want to influence others on the LVA, figure out how to make hot links. Many of us won't go through the trouble of trying to cut and paste to get to the target. Making a hot link is easier than creating simple syrup. Geez

One can bitch about a problem or one can fix a problem.

From money.cnn.com :
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Outside of maybe Provo and Salt Lake City, any auto mechanic who doesn't tithe doesn't get any business. In small town Utah, if you're not a member in good standing with the LDS, you're fucked.

That's how theocracies work.

Meanwhile, Utah Mormons gave about $30 million to oppose gay marriage...in California. Can't you just smell the charity.
Bitching? No, I'm suggesting if a poster wants to expose the group to a 2008 opinion piece it would help to provide a hot link.

There is a history of a number of people who make their case by pointing to links without actually linking to them. Hinders their ability to influence others.
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Originally posted by: esteskefauver
They talk a good game, but they don't actually put their money where their mouth is.

https://money.cnn.com/interactive/pf/charitable-states-map/?iid=EL

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html?_r=0


Ok, time to crawl back under that rock......
OMG, Forkush! Utah spends 10.6% on charity and the liberal New England states spend less than 3% and you attribute the difference to the cost of doing business for the auto mechanic. The poorest state in the US, Mississippi, spends over 7% on charity and outpaces all liberal states and you attribute it to big Super Bowl shindigs. Ridiculous.
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