LOL My Obamacare Premium is going up 50% in 2016

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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: hoops2
Pj is referring to the system that along with SS has a $50t long term deficit
Ahh, . . . but there are possible solutions:

F'rinstance,

Solution 1 (addressing the shortage by altering one tax/expenditure):
" . . . starting today, raise Federal Income Taxes (individual and corporate) by 69%. Or we could, starting today, raise payroll taxes by 95%. Or we could immediately and permanently cut federal discretionary spending by 106%, which, of course, is infeasible. Or we could immediately and permanently cut Social Security and medicare benefits by 45%."

Solution 2 (addressing the shortage by altering several taxes/expenditures:
". . . we could simultaneously raise income taxes by 17%, raise payroll taxes by 24%, cut Federal purchases by 26%, and cut Social Security and Medicare benefits by 11%."

Ref: The Coming Generational Storm

DonDiego does not anticipate members of the present Congress or Administration to enact either of these solutions or a comparable variant.
DonDiego does not expect any Congress or Administration to enact any effective solution.

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
__Margaret Thatcher

There are other solutions. We could bring in millions of illegal workers and make them pay into the system but don't pay them any benefits and make them go home when they can't work anymore.

Curious about the title of this thread...
Why in the world would someone be "laughing out loud" about their insurance premium going up 50%? SMH
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Originally posted by: agnes
Curious about the title of this thread...
Why in the world would someone be "laughing out loud" about their insurance premium going up 50%? SMH


When you are being forced to buy the policy, all you can do is laugh at the perverse nature of it.
DD doesn't mention how much we would have to tax the rich (the fall back position for all liberal spending follies) for this. Would it be it about 500%?

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Originally posted by: alanleroy

Orchid just transitioned to the insurance benefit he earned by paying Medicare taxes for 45 years. That system IS the system for everyone who pays into it for 45 years. You want the benefit part without the earning it first part. Just be patient. You'll get your earned benefit eventually. Maybe.



I can make you a list of all the countries that have "big government" programs that insure everyone at a price per capita that is much lower than ours with better outcomes and better participant satisfaction.

And most people in this country (orchid as an example) have much higher satisfaction with the "big government" program of Medicare compared to the private insurers.


I just don't understand how any business can justify even a 25% increase much less a 50% increase. The problem is the medical world has us by the short hairs. Here is another example of how these people have no conscience.

From https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/business/a-huge-overnight-increase-in-a-drugs-price-raises-protests.html?_r=0

The drug, called Daraprim, was acquired in August by Turing Pharmaceuticals, a start-up run by a former hedge fund manager. Turing immediately raised the price to $750 a tablet from $13.50, bringing the annual cost of treatment for some patients to hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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Originally posted by: Tutontow
I just don't understand how any business can justify even a 25% increase much less a 50% increase. The problem is the medical world has us by the short hairs. Here is another example of how these people have no conscience.

From https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/business/a-huge-overnight-increase-in-a-drugs-price-raises-protests.html?_r=0

The drug, called Daraprim, was acquired in August by Turing Pharmaceuticals, a start-up run by a former hedge fund manager. Turing immediately raised the price to $750 a tablet from $13.50, bringing the annual cost of treatment for some patients to hundreds of thousands of dollars.


And now a competitor will offer an alternative treatment for $1.00 a pill. Isn't competition grand?

https://money.cnn.com/2015/10/23/news/companies/imprimis-daraprim-turing-martin-shkreli/


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: alanleroy

Orchid just transitioned to the insurance benefit he earned by paying Medicare taxes for 45 years. That system IS the system for everyone who pays into it for 45 years. You want the benefit part without the earning it first part. Just be patient. You'll get your earned benefit eventually. Maybe.



I can make you a list of all the countries that have "big government" programs that insure everyone at a price per capita that is much lower than ours with better outcomes and better participant satisfaction.

And most people in this country (orchid as an example) have much higher satisfaction with the "big government" program of Medicare compared to the private insurers.

Medicare which requires decades of tax contribution before you earn a single benefit is different than Socialized Medical Insurance or Socialized Medicine. Of course people like it. It's cheaper. It's cheaper because you contributed your entire working life to get it and it's still subsidized. I think it's bizarre that democrats are so afraid to say the words 'socialized medical insurance' they make up a tidy little euphemisms....Like 'Single Payer'.

If socialized medical insurance is what Democrats really wanted that's what you should have given us when you had control of congress and the presidency instead of going all in for Obamacare and now bitching because we still have the worst, and most expensive healthcare among our wealthy peers.

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Originally posted by: Tutontow
I just don't understand how any business can justify even a 25% increase much less a 50% increase. The problem is the medical world has us by the short hairs. Here is another example of how these people have no conscience.

From https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/business/a-huge-overnight-increase-in-a-drugs-price-raises-protests.html?_r=0

The drug, called Daraprim, was acquired in August by Turing Pharmaceuticals, a start-up run by a former hedge fund manager. Turing immediately raised the price to $750 a tablet from $13.50, bringing the annual cost of treatment for some patients to hundreds of thousands of dollars.


From his wiki page he appears to be an Ashkenazi Jew. Color me not surprised. Hint: Bernie Madoff is an Ashkenazi Jew.
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Originally posted by: esteskefauver
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Originally posted by: Tutontow
I just don't understand how any business can justify even a 25% increase much less a 50% increase. The problem is the medical world has us by the short hairs. Here is another example of how these people have no conscience.

From https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/business/a-huge-overnight-increase-in-a-drugs-price-raises-protests.html?_r=0

The drug, called Daraprim, was acquired in August by Turing Pharmaceuticals, a start-up run by a former hedge fund manager. Turing immediately raised the price to $750 a tablet from $13.50, bringing the annual cost of treatment for some patients to hundreds of thousands of dollars.


From his wiki page he appears to be an Ashkenazi Jew. Color me not surprised. Hint: Bernie Madoff is an Ashkenazi Jew.
That's an ironic icon you got there, Estes.

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