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LOL Trump Claims Obama Wiretapped Trump Tower In 5AM Tweet

alanleroy

Mar 4, 2017
2:53am

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
That's right, In the absence of any evidence of any kind I presume statements to be false. That's why I don't believe in Big Foot..

Trump has stated without evidence that:
- The election was rigged
- Voter fraud is happening by the millions
- Busloads of people were sent into New Hampshire to vote illegally
- his predecessor has a fake US birth certificate
- and now - his phone was tapped in Trump Tower.

Non-Partisan AlanLeroy isn't asking for Trump to back up any of these things. He demands those who question these completely baseless, evidence-free statements prove a negative. Posters should take this behavior into account before attempting to engage AlanLeroy in a thoughtful conversation.

Of course I specifically mentioned that I'd withhold judgement until I saw evidence....That's what we non partisans do...unlike PJ...who has already conducted his own investigation...like the one for his claim about the Russians hacked the Grid. I bet PJ bought the Golden Shower story too...like malibber. Haters gonna hate.

pjstroh

Mar 4, 2017
3:51am

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Originally posted by: alanleroy

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
That's right, In the absence of any evidence of any kind I presume statements to be false. That's why I don't believe in Big Foot..

Trump has stated without evidence that:
- The election was rigged
- Voter fraud is happening by the millions
- Busloads of people were sent into New Hampshire to vote illegally
- his predecessor has a fake US birth certificate
- and now - his phone was tapped in Trump Tower.

Non-Partisan AlanLeroy isn't asking for Trump to back up any of these things. He demands those who question these completely baseless, evidence-free statements prove a negative. Posters should take this behavior into account before attempting to engage AlanLeroy in a thoughtful conversation.

AlanLeroy wants an official investigation to prove Trump's newest baseless claim to be false. And in the meantime he is open to the idea of it being true. His criticism isn't to the one making the baseless claim - its to the people pointing out it is a baseless claim.

Oh - and he's non-partisan. Dont forget that.

alanleroy

Mar 4, 2017
4:21am

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Originally posted by: pjstroh

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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
That's right, In the absence of any evidence of any kind I presume statements to be false. That's why I don't believe in Big Foot..

Trump has stated without evidence that:
- The election was rigged
- Voter fraud is happening by the millions
- Busloads of people were sent into New Hampshire to vote illegally
- his predecessor has a fake US birth certificate
- and now - his phone was tapped in Trump Tower.

Non-Partisan AlanLeroy isn't asking for Trump to back up any of these things. He demands those who question these completely baseless, evidence-free statements prove a negative. Posters should take this behavior into account before attempting to engage AlanLeroy in a thoughtful conversation.
Of course I specifically mentioned that I'd withhold judgement until I saw evidence....That's what we non partisans do...unlike PJ...who has already conducted his own investigation...like the one for his claim about the Russians hacked the Grid. I bet PJ bought the Golden Shower story too...like malibber. Haters gonna hate.

I responded to Malibber2's suggestion that Trump is either on illegal drugs or 'bonkers as he is suffering from a psychosis'. I'm sure PJ believes this hook, line and sinker. But that's not a 'baseless claim'....according to partisan hacks.

My response was to point out that the Obama administration was investigating links to Russian interference in the election and if you believe the Democrats rhetoric it leads to Trump. So why is it so hard for you to believe that there were court approved wiretaps in Trump Tower?

I see this as a serious claim. And if it is baseless, there should be consequences. I want to see the evidence. If there were taps, who ordered it? Did President Obama Know about it? And when did he know it? And if there were no taps is Trump just inventing this?...Like the Golden Shower Dossier...Or PJ's fake news on the Electric Grid Hack.

And let me help you with the whole non partisan description..

"Trump is on drugs or bonkers": Partisan--See PJ or malibber.
"Obama Ordered the Wiretap like Nixon": Partisan.--See Many Republicans here
"Let's wait for the evidence": Non Partisan.--See AlanLeroy

billryan

Mar 4, 2017
4:51am

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The President and the White House don't wiretap anyone. If such a tap exists, it was requested by the Department of Justice and granted by a FISA court. If such an order was issued, Trumps Presidency is doomed.

malibber2

Mar 4, 2017
4:56am

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I responded to Malibber2's suggestion that Trump is either on illegal drugs or 'bonkers as he is suffering from a psychosis'.

For the record, I was suggesting legal drugs. I think Trump’s behavior is indicative of someone who suffers from severe ADHD. Legal amphetamines would be the usual treatment. His seeming ability to appear well put together for planned events such as his address to congress while ranting and raving like a lunatic at all hours of the day and night at other times is indicative of someone on a large dose of Adderall. The irrational paranoia (Obama is out to get me) would also be symptomatic of taking large doses of these types of drugs. The alternative would be that he simply is suffering from a psychosis because a President can't order a wiretap.

jatki

Mar 4, 2017
7:06am

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Originally posted by: billryan
... If such an order was issued, Trumps Presidency is doomed.

So sayeth the awesomest, mostest all knowing poster Billy the awesome...doomed, I tell you...DOOMED!!

billryan

Mar 4, 2017
7:35am

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While the usual idiots call this a big nothing, here is what two Republican Senators had to say about it:

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) discussed the two-sided nature of this situation during an event held on Saturday morning, not long after Trump’s tweetstorm. If Trump’s claims are true and the taps were illegal, Graham said, “it would be the biggest political scandal since Watergate.”
But, he continued, if Obama “was able to obtain a warrant lawfully to monitor Trump’s campaign for violating the law, that would be the biggest scandal since Watergate.” (The implication being that the government would probably have some pretty damning stuff on the Trump campaign to convince a judge to give them a legal warrant.)
Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) — who, like Graham, is a frequent GOP Trump critic — continued in this vein. “If there were wiretaps of then-candidate Trump's organization or campaign, then it was either with FISA Court authorization or without such authorization,” Sasse said in a statement. “If without, the President should explain what sort of wiretap it was and how he knows this. It is possible he was illegally tapped.”
Then Sasse made the pivot: “On the other hand, if it was with a legal FISA court order, then an application for surveillance exists that the Court found credible. The President should ask that this full application regarding surveillance of foreign operatives or operations be made available, ideally to the full public, and at a bare minimum to the US Senate.” He added: “We are in the midst of a civilization-warping crisis of public trust.”
Time for trump to put up, or slink out of office.

BobOrme

Mar 4, 2017
12:38pm

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The phone calls recorded and leaked concerning Michael Flynn had to have been the result of a FISA warrant, or they were illegal. If they were the result of a FISA issued warrant, who requested it and why? Why would anyone think Flynn was the only target of the Øbama wrecking crew? ...a clue...he wasn't.

The denial by Øbama operatives concerning tapping the phone lines at the Trump Tower is laughable. Anyone who thinks Loretta Lynch is above reproach is an idiot. They have been circumventing the law concerning Trump and those even remotely connected to him since Trump got the nomination. Why else would Øbama buy and move into a mansion a couple miles from the White House, and have Valerie Jarrett move in with him?

There is pure evil living in Washington DC, and it isn't in the White House. The mainstream media is a willing participant in these attempts to destroy Trump. It is truly sickening to watch.

Amberly

Mar 4, 2017
9:51pm

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Originally posted by: BobOrme
The phone calls recorded and leaked concerning Michael Flynn had to have been the result of a FISA warrant, or they were illegal. If they were the result of a FISA issued warrant, who requested it and why? Why would anyone think Flynn was the only target of the Øbama wrecking crew? ...a clue...he wasn't.

The denial by Øbama operatives concerning tapping the phone lines at the Trump Tower is laughable. Anyone who thinks Loretta Lynch is above reproach is an idiot. They have been circumventing the law concerning Trump and those even remotely connected to him since Trump got the nomination. Why else would Øbama buy and move into a mansion a couple miles from the White House, and have Valerie Jarrett move in with him?

There is pure evil living in Washington DC, and it isn't in the White House. The mainstream media is a willing participant in these attempts to destroy Trump. It is truly sickening to watch.

Wow. Looks like somebody really needs to get laid.

alanleroy

Mar 4, 2017
11:10pm

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Originally posted by: billryan
The President and the White House don't wiretap anyone..

Right! The President's political appointee Attorney General does that.

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Originally posted by: billryan

If such a tap exists, it was requested by the Department of Justice and granted by a FISA court.
If such an order was issued, Trumps Presidency is doomed.

Wait a minute....PJ has already decided there is no 'IF".

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