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alanleroy

Aug 26, 2015
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My advice for Democrats and Republicans alike. If you ever find yourself considering cheating on your spouse...don't do it. Either be up front and get some marriage counseling and try to work things out or get a divorce and move on. One or the other...
Well yeah.

But the act of engaging in cheating or other questionable sexual activity while lecturing others on sexual morality, or even trying to legally restrict the sexual activity of others seems to be a particularly conservative Republican disease.

Does anyone disagree?

Perhaps you have some graphs that show 'cheating or other questionable sexual activity' is more prevalent among conservative Republicans. It's certainly more hypocritical. But just maybe it's less prevalent. Regardless it wasn't my point. My point was that your political affiliation doesn't matter because it will lead to misery regardless. Why do you always have to make this shit political?
I never turn threads political, nor do I start political threads. But I thought malibber made a valid point, but he overstated it, and said he should have used the word "tend." So that's what I wrote, and the weaklings who can't argue it are turning to name-calling (see above).

But where do you come off asking me to prove that cheating is more prevalent among conservatives? I never made that claim. My point is that secretly screwing around in various ways while condemning others is pretty much a right-wing thing.

Can you name any Democrats who do it?

Just because democrats don't often take positions on "family values" doesn't make them any less scumbags when they cheat on their spouses...
Some of us think that when a "family values" hypocrite does it, that makes it a lot worse. It's been said that hypocrites deserve a special place in hell - perhaps literally. Remember what JC had to say about the Pharisees? And derision of hypocrites is a pretty common theme in our culture, from Sinclair Lewis' Elmer Gantry to W. Somerset Maugham's Miss Sadie Thompson to Shakespeare's Measure for Measure and even Tom T. Hall's Harper Valley PTA.

But yeah I get that you are very forgiving of hypocrites. It shows in your politics.

I'm not forgiving of hypocrites. I am unforgiving of cheaters. You are obviously forgiving of cheaters...

No, I simply don't think it's any of my god damn business. I'd like you to know just how deeply, how profoundly I don't give a shit that Clinton, Kennedy, Eisenhower, and FDR fucked around on their wives. I don't care that Martin Luther King Jr. did either. It's a family matter, and oh by the way, it's none of your god damn business either...

...Unless: they lecture others on sexual morality, try to shame those who disagree, and even advocate laws to restrict consensual relationships between adults. Then, if they are Newt Gingrich or Bristol Palin or Larry Craig or David Vitter, or any of the others, they deserve all the condemnation we can pile on.

And I could have added lots and lots more right wingers to that last sentence, couldn't I? Not too many liberals, huh?

To claim Martin Luther King was not a hypocrite for cheating on Coretta demonstrates the height of your personal hypocrisy. He was a Christian minister who performed the sacrament of marriage and preached morality from the pulpit. How is that different than the Republicans who advocate for high morals in public and cheat on their wives in private? It's not.

You're obviously only in this to smear your political opponents. Nothing new. Double standard Forkush. Your hasty generalizations, stereotypes and prejudice against Republicans are worthy of boilerman's observations on the black community. You're in good company.

The bottom line is that Cheating and lying are wrong. We can discourage it or we can ignore it...I usually ignore it...but no amount of spin is ever going to make it right or make the person doing it trustworthy.

chefantwon

Aug 27, 2015
10:33am

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All right Alan let’s assume we have a Democrat and a Republican that want to bang a whore.

The Democratic approach:

1. Bang a whore and suffer whatever consequences come of it.

The Republican approach:

1. Publicly insist that you’re not like other guys that bang whores, and that you would never bang whores.

2. Publicly advocate increased punishment for any guy getting caught banging a whore.

3. Publicly advocate really extreme punishment for the whore (after all it really is her fault) and make sure it is difficult for her to get birth control.

4. Have your wife and children publicity proclaim you’re not the kind of guy that bangs whores.

5. Go home and find a website that promises to provide even a fat middle aged white guy like you a bevy of twenty something attractive young ladies that are willing to have no strings affairs with you and that nobody will ever find out it.

6. Pay said website 1000s of dollars and arrange to bang your whore.

7. Bang said whore provided by website pimp, but tell yourself it is different because you’re just helping a poor college girl that needs extra money out.

8. Site gets hacked or the young lady outs you.

9. Deny this at first.

10. When that doesn’t work, admit you sinned, but blame online porn, the devil and anybody but yourself.

11. Trot your wife out to publicly proclaim she is standing by you.

12. Remind everyone that Bill Clinton got a blow job twenty years ago.

13. Return home and look for a different website that will really keep you secret the next time.

12 A. Get on National and state you didn't have sexual relations and name the woman...

Dude, it was no one's business outside of his family. And since he wasn't an asshole family values proselytizer, there was no hypocrisy involved either.

But seriously chef, was it worth the $70 million the Republicans spent on it. Next time can't they get their jollys some other way?

Forkie, he lied.

To the American people, to a judge and a grand jury, at several depositions, and before several judges.

When a US President gets up on national tv and lies to the American people LIVE. Then it IS a problem.

National security is one thing, but this was so easy to make go away. Billy could have easily gotten a nice toasty settlement and had it sealed so no one would know the amounts he would be paying and to who.

He made his own bed and didn't figure out how jump out of the window until it was too late. He wanted to walk through the front door instead, he did, but with a shotgun up his ass. Wife and family watching all the way.

malibber2

Aug 27, 2015
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So who did Bristol Palin cheat with? Was it some Yankee player or was that just a tasteless joke by David Letterman?

Didn't Josh Duggar admit his wrong doing publicly pretty quickly once accused publicly? And all the rest of your examples? Liberals TEND TO never do this. That makes these people lying scumbags and they are just as bad in my book as hypocrite scumbags.

The Main Street Media also seems to take such glee in exposing conservative people who sleep around.....not so much for liberals - cuz their audience TEND TO BE less interested in the transgressions of Liberals.

He and his family covered up that he molested five girls (including his sisters) when he was a teenager. It was only admitted to when someone found the old police report years later.

And really is running away and hiding in a secluded church camp while leaving your poor wife to answer for your misdeeds taking responsibility for your actions?

As to Bristol, she wasn’t a cheater she just made the dumb mistake of advocating abstinence for young adults that aren’t married and then getting pregnant twice when she wasn’t married. When you are 24 years old and your job is to run around and tell everyone how you abstain from sex when you end up preggers it looks kind of bad.

forkushV

Aug 28, 2015
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My advice for Democrats and Republicans alike. If you ever find yourself considering cheating on your spouse...don't do it. Either be up front and get some marriage counseling and try to work things out or get a divorce and move on. One or the other...
Well yeah.

But the act of engaging in cheating or other questionable sexual activity while lecturing others on sexual morality, or even trying to legally restrict the sexual activity of others seems to be a particularly conservative Republican disease.

Does anyone disagree?

Perhaps you have some graphs that show 'cheating or other questionable sexual activity' is more prevalent among conservative Republicans. It's certainly more hypocritical. But just maybe it's less prevalent. Regardless it wasn't my point. My point was that your political affiliation doesn't matter because it will lead to misery regardless. Why do you always have to make this shit political?
I never turn threads political, nor do I start political threads. But I thought malibber made a valid point, but he overstated it, and said he should have used the word "tend." So that's what I wrote, and the weaklings who can't argue it are turning to name-calling (see above).

But where do you come off asking me to prove that cheating is more prevalent among conservatives? I never made that claim. My point is that secretly screwing around in various ways while condemning others is pretty much a right-wing thing.

Can you name any Democrats who do it?

Just because democrats don't often take positions on "family values" doesn't make them any less scumbags when they cheat on their spouses...
Some of us think that when a "family values" hypocrite does it, that makes it a lot worse. It's been said that hypocrites deserve a special place in hell - perhaps literally. Remember what JC had to say about the Pharisees? And derision of hypocrites is a pretty common theme in our culture, from Sinclair Lewis' Elmer Gantry to W. Somerset Maugham's Miss Sadie Thompson to Shakespeare's Measure for Measure and even Tom T. Hall's Harper Valley PTA.

But yeah I get that you are very forgiving of hypocrites. It shows in your politics.

I'm not forgiving of hypocrites. I am unforgiving of cheaters. You are obviously forgiving of cheaters...
No, I simply don't think it's any of my god damn business. I'd like you to know just how deeply, how profoundly I don't give a shit that Clinton, Kennedy, Eisenhower, and FDR fucked around on their wives. I don't care that Martin Luther King Jr. did either. It's a family matter, and oh by the way, it's none of your god damn business either...

...Unless: they lecture others on sexual morality, try to shame those who disagree, and even advocate laws to restrict consensual relationships between adults. Then, if they are Newt Gingrich or Bristol Palin or Larry Craig or David Vitter, or any of the others, they deserve all the condemnation we can pile on.

And I could have added lots and lots more right wingers to that last sentence, couldn't I? Not too many liberals, huh?

Gee alanleroy, I think this about the third thread this month that you've resorted to arguing over vocabulary rarther than, you know, ideas. That's not a good sign. So to short circuit your silliness, here's a new word, complete with a definition from me:

Humungohypocrite: Someone who devotes a major part of their public life to scolding others on sexual morals, and even advocates laws to limit sexual activities of which they disapprove, while engaging in some of those same activities themselves.

And by way - humungohypocrite population: GOP.

jatki

Aug 28, 2015
3:09am

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This has got to be the dumbest arguement yet for the FFA; Dem. vs. Rep. cheaters, who woulda thunk it, but the results are about par for the course. Alan, the sensible one and making the most sense. Forkie, as usual, portraying the idiotic hack. Then there's MAL bringing up the rear with his overactive imagination and painting groups of people with huige swaths of a very broad brush placing them into a nice neat little labeled grouping.

forkushV

Aug 28, 2015
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This has got to be the dumbest arguement yet for the FFA; Dem. vs. Rep. cheaters...

That's not what it's about. Please see my definition.

This is about someone who would "devote a major part of their public life to scolding others on sexual morals, and even advocates laws to limit sexual activities of which they disapprove, while engaging in some of those same activities themselves." Population GOP. Thank you.

Roulette Man

Aug 28, 2015
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This has got to be the dumbest arguement yet for the FFA; Dem. vs. Rep. cheaters...

That's not what it's about. Please see my definition.

This is about someone who would "devote a major part of their public life to scolding others on sexual morals, and even advocates laws to limit sexual activities of which they disapprove, while engaging in some of those same activities themselves." Population GOP. Thank you.

Population Democrats. Thank you

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He told CNN he has not broken that law since 2008.

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alanleroy

Aug 28, 2015
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My advice for Democrats and Republicans alike. If you ever find yourself considering cheating on your spouse...don't do it. Either be up front and get some marriage counseling and try to work things out or get a divorce and move on. One or the other...
Well yeah.

But the act of engaging in cheating or other questionable sexual activity while lecturing others on sexual morality, or even trying to legally restrict the sexual activity of others seems to be a particularly conservative Republican disease.

Does anyone disagree?

Perhaps you have some graphs that show 'cheating or other questionable sexual activity' is more prevalent among conservative Republicans. It's certainly more hypocritical. But just maybe it's less prevalent. Regardless it wasn't my point. My point was that your political affiliation doesn't matter because it will lead to misery regardless. Why do you always have to make this shit political?
I never turn threads political, nor do I start political threads. But I thought malibber made a valid point, but he overstated it, and said he should have used the word "tend." So that's what I wrote, and the weaklings who can't argue it are turning to name-calling (see above).

But where do you come off asking me to prove that cheating is more prevalent among conservatives? I never made that claim. My point is that secretly screwing around in various ways while condemning others is pretty much a right-wing thing.

Can you name any Democrats who do it?

Just because democrats don't often take positions on "family values" doesn't make them any less scumbags when they cheat on their spouses...
Some of us think that when a "family values" hypocrite does it, that makes it a lot worse. It's been said that hypocrites deserve a special place in hell - perhaps literally. Remember what JC had to say about the Pharisees? And derision of hypocrites is a pretty common theme in our culture, from Sinclair Lewis' Elmer Gantry to W. Somerset Maugham's Miss Sadie Thompson to Shakespeare's Measure for Measure and even Tom T. Hall's Harper Valley PTA.

But yeah I get that you are very forgiving of hypocrites. It shows in your politics.

I'm not forgiving of hypocrites. I am unforgiving of cheaters. You are obviously forgiving of cheaters...
No, I simply don't think it's any of my god damn business. I'd like you to know just how deeply, how profoundly I don't give a shit that Clinton, Kennedy, Eisenhower, and FDR fucked around on their wives. I don't care that Martin Luther King Jr. did either. It's a family matter, and oh by the way, it's none of your god damn business either...

...Unless: they lecture others on sexual morality, try to shame those who disagree, and even advocate laws to restrict consensual relationships between adults. Then, if they are Newt Gingrich or Bristol Palin or Larry Craig or David Vitter, or any of the others, they deserve all the condemnation we can pile on.

And I could have added lots and lots more right wingers to that last sentence, couldn't I? Not too many liberals, huh?

To claim Martin Luther King was not a hypocrite for cheating on Coretta demonstrates the height of your personal hypocrisy. He was a Christian minister who performed the sacrament of marriage and preached morality from the pulpit. How is that different than the Republicans who advocate for high morals in public and cheat on their wives in private? It's not.

You're obviously only in this to smear your political opponents. Nothing new. Double standard Forkush. Your hasty generalizations, stereotypes and prejudice against Republicans are worthy of boilerman's observations on the black community. You're in good company.

The bottom line is that Cheating and lying are wrong. We can discourage it or we can ignore it...I usually ignore it...but no amount of spin is ever going to make it right or make the person doing it trustworthy.

Well that's just cute. You make up a new word, because I just proved how the old word (which was 'hypocrite') applied to your example....a Christian minister who performed marriages and moralized from the pulpit while cheating on his wife. And you accuse ME of 'resorting to arguing over vocabulary' and not ideas. Just give up now.

Here....I've got a new word for you: IdiotPolHack: A person who attempts to smear his political opposition with hasty generalizations, stereotypes and prejudice. There are 45 million Republicans. Just how many of them do you think "devote a major part of their public life to scolding others on sexual morals....while engaging in some of those same activities themselves." 50? 100? 1000? You've got pretty much the same M.O. as Boilerman's pre-judging of the Black community. Peas in a pod you two. Only difference is he really believes it and you're just doing it for political points.

forkushV

Aug 28, 2015
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My advice for Democrats and Republicans alike. If you ever find yourself considering cheating on your spouse...don't do it. Either be up front and get some marriage counseling and try to work things out or get a divorce and move on. One or the other...
Well yeah.

But the act of engaging in cheating or other questionable sexual activity while lecturing others on sexual morality, or even trying to legally restrict the sexual activity of others seems to be a particularly conservative Republican disease.

Does anyone disagree?

Perhaps you have some graphs that show 'cheating or other questionable sexual activity' is more prevalent among conservative Republicans. It's certainly more hypocritical. But just maybe it's less prevalent. Regardless it wasn't my point. My point was that your political affiliation doesn't matter because it will lead to misery regardless. Why do you always have to make this shit political?
I never turn threads political, nor do I start political threads. But I thought malibber made a valid point, but he overstated it, and said he should have used the word "tend." So that's what I wrote, and the weaklings who can't argue it are turning to name-calling (see above).

But where do you come off asking me to prove that cheating is more prevalent among conservatives? I never made that claim. My point is that secretly screwing around in various ways while condemning others is pretty much a right-wing thing.

Can you name any Democrats who do it?

Just because democrats don't often take positions on "family values" doesn't make them any less scumbags when they cheat on their spouses...
Some of us think that when a "family values" hypocrite does it, that makes it a lot worse. It's been said that hypocrites deserve a special place in hell - perhaps literally. Remember what JC had to say about the Pharisees? And derision of hypocrites is a pretty common theme in our culture, from Sinclair Lewis' Elmer Gantry to W. Somerset Maugham's Miss Sadie Thompson to Shakespeare's Measure for Measure and even Tom T. Hall's Harper Valley PTA.

But yeah I get that you are very forgiving of hypocrites. It shows in your politics.

I'm not forgiving of hypocrites. I am unforgiving of cheaters. You are obviously forgiving of cheaters...
No, I simply don't think it's any of my god damn business. I'd like you to know just how deeply, how profoundly I don't give a shit that Clinton, Kennedy, Eisenhower, and FDR fucked around on their wives. I don't care that Martin Luther King Jr. did either. It's a family matter, and oh by the way, it's none of your god damn business either...

...Unless: they lecture others on sexual morality, try to shame those who disagree, and even advocate laws to restrict consensual relationships between adults. Then, if they are Newt Gingrich or Bristol Palin or Larry Craig or David Vitter, or any of the others, they deserve all the condemnation we can pile on.

And I could have added lots and lots more right wingers to that last sentence, couldn't I? Not too many liberals, huh?

To claim Martin Luther King was not a hypocrite for cheating on Coretta demonstrates the height of your personal hypocrisy. He was a Christian minister who performed the sacrament of marriage and preached morality from the pulpit. How is that different than the Republicans who advocate for high morals in public and cheat on their wives in private? It's not.

You're obviously only in this to smear your political opponents. Nothing new. Double standard Forkush. Your hasty generalizations, stereotypes and prejudice against Republicans are worthy of boilerman's observations on the black community. You're in good company.

The bottom line is that Cheating and lying are wrong. We can discourage it or we can ignore it...I usually ignore it...but no amount of spin is ever going to make it right or make the person doing it trustworthy.
Gee alanleroy, I think this about the third thread this month that you've resorted to arguing over vocabulary rarther than, you know, ideas. That's not a good sign. So to short circuit your silliness, here's a new word, complete with a definition from me:

Humungohypocrite: Someone who devotes a major part of their public life to scolding others on sexual morals, and even advocates laws to limit sexual activities of which they disapprove, while engaging in some of those same activities themselves.

And by way - humungohypocrite population: GOP.

Here....I've got a new word for you: IdiotPolHack: A person who attempts to smear his political opposition with hasty generalizations, stereotypes and prejudice. There are 45 million Republicans. Just how many of them do you think "devote a major part of their public life to scolding others on sexual morals....while engaging in some of those same activities themselves."...

Relatively few. I never claimed otherwise. So why don't you calm down; try breathing into a paper bag or something.

If you look at what I wrote, I said that right-wingers "tend" to be the ones engage in the same sexual activities that they decry - much more than us liberals do - and that virtually all of those who spend their public life condemning certain sexual activities while practicing it themselves turn out to be right wingers.

When I hear some pious evangelical woman moralizing to girls how they should "save themselves" for holy matrimony, I think to myself "ex-slut," don't you? And when I hear some guy denounce the evils of homosexuality, I'm guessing they might have some latency issues. And actually, there is some science behind that last guess. How about that?

alanleroy

Aug 28, 2015
8:03am

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Relatively few.

HaHa..'Relatively few'. Like .0001 percent of the 45 million? Like just enough for you to try to smear republicans with your hateful stereotypes? Like Boilerman does with black people and Muslims.

And I am perfectly calm. And completely right. There is a big difference between Homosexuality, Pre-Marital Sex and Cheating on your spouse. One of them is actually hurtful and wrong and is the topic of this thread and is not simply an acceptable sexual lifestyle. I'm sorry you don't understand the difference. That may be the real problem here. Failure to communicate.

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