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IndyBoilerman
IndyBoilerman
Jul 25, 2016
3:49am
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If Forkie has a good story to tell, why must he twist to truth?


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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
...I bet you're really excited now that Kaine is on the ticket. Now you've got both candidates owned by the Wall Street Banks. The new one is in their back pockets on deregulation and in the back pocket of the globalists 5000 Page TPP deal...
Gosh you mean the Democratic ticket isn't perfect in every way? Now please don't tell me that politicians I vote for will sometimes disappoint and not even keep their campaign promises! Heavens to Betsy, where's the fainting couch.

Or maybe you should stop being an infant.

The imperfect Senator Kaine has made an overnight conversion to the anti-TPP side; that's not ideal, but I'll take it. And I have other reasons for liking him for Vice President:

  • He never wrote anything as criminally stupid as Mike Pence's "Smoking doesn't kill.
  • He never cost his state's economy millions by signing an anti-gay rights bill like Pence.
  • As governor he took on Big Tobacco - in Virginia - and won.
  • As governor he took on the NRA - in Virginia - and won.
  • As governor he took on the death penalty - in Virginia - and won.

    He's well respected by several Republican US Senators. And he's served as mayor, governor, and senator - never lost an election, and if Hillary wins Virginia and Florida, it's probably over. We might know who the next president is by 7 PM Eastern election day. Remember, you heard it here first.


    • forkushV
    forkushV
    Jul 25, 2016
    4:05am
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    Originally posted by: IndyBoilerman
    If Forkie has a good story to tell, why must he twist to truth?...
    Could you be a little more vague.

    Oh wait, actually could you be a little more specific. Are you saying that Tim Kaine DID write something as criminally stupid as Mike Pence's "Smoking doesn't kill?" Inquiring minds want to know!
    jphelan
    jphelan
    Jul 25, 2016
    7:51am
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    Back to the original topic. I listened to Ted's speech and he never criticized Trump on the night of the speech. I don't think he even mentioned his name. The next day, Ted doubled down and criticized Trump only AFTER Trump criticized Ted.

    Ted's speech praised first responders, freedom & liberty, and encouraged people to vote in November. Could Donald expect anything more after criticizing Ted's wife and father?

    Even then Donald tried to upstage Ted by shutting down the screens during his speech and entering the auditorium at the most opportune point in the speech.

    Ted earned the second most votes in the primaries. If he stayed home instead, wouldn't that have been even more devisive? That would be akin to Bernie Sanders staying home.

    If I were Ted Cruz, I would have done exactly the same thing.
    "Cruz’s move, however, appears to have backfired. While 60% of Republican voters had a positive impression of the former presidential candidate before the convention, just 33% have one now." As I predicted. That is an epic collapse of public opinion. Most people thought he was just being selfish. It backfired....Obviously. I always thought he was a phony.

    https://hotair.com/archives/2016/07/25/cruzs-favorable-rating-nosedives-after-trump-non-endorsement/


    Integrity never "backfires" - except possibly when it comes to politics.

    alanleroyII
    alanleroyII
    Jul 25, 2016
    8:01am
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    Back to the original topic. I listened to Ted's speech and he never criticized Trump on the night of the speech. I don't think he even mentioned his name. The next day, Ted doubled down and criticized Trump only AFTER Trump criticized Ted.

    Ted's speech praised first responders, freedom & liberty, and encouraged people to vote in November. Could Donald expect anything more after criticizing Ted's wife and father?

    Even then Donald tried to upstage Ted by shutting down the screens during his speech and entering the auditorium at the most opportune point in the speech.

    Ted earned the second most votes in the primaries. If he stayed home instead, wouldn't that have been even more devisive? That would be akin to Bernie Sanders staying home.

    If I were Ted Cruz, I would have done exactly the same thing.
    "Cruz’s move, however, appears to have backfired. While 60% of Republican voters had a positive impression of the former presidential candidate before the convention, just 33% have one now." As I predicted. That is an epic collapse of public opinion. Most people thought he was just being selfish. It backfired....Obviously. I always thought he was a phony.

    https://hotair.com/archives/2016/07/25/cruzs-favorable-rating-nosedives-after-trump-non-endorsement/


    Integrity never "backfires" - except possibly when it comes to politics.
    Cruz's campaign pulled a lot of dirty tricks. Cruz was caught in many lies. That doesn't equate to 'Integrity'....except in politics. He should have just stayed home if he wasn't going to support the nominee. He'll have trouble keeping his senate seat because his supporters think he betrayed the party to promote himself. I know you see it differently, but the numbers don't lie.


    forkushV
    forkushV
    Jul 25, 2016
    8:16am
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    Back to the original topic. I listened to Ted's speech and he never criticized Trump on the night of the speech. I don't think he even mentioned his name. The next day, Ted doubled down and criticized Trump only AFTER Trump criticized Ted.

    Ted's speech praised first responders, freedom & liberty, and encouraged people to vote in November. Could Donald expect anything more after criticizing Ted's wife and father?

    Even then Donald tried to upstage Ted by shutting down the screens during his speech and entering the auditorium at the most opportune point in the speech.

    Ted earned the second most votes in the primaries. If he stayed home instead, wouldn't that have been even more devisive? That would be akin to Bernie Sanders staying home.

    If I were Ted Cruz, I would have done exactly the same thing.
    "Cruz’s move, however, appears to have backfired. While 60% of Republican voters had a positive impression of the former presidential candidate before the convention, just 33% have one now." As I predicted. That is an epic collapse of public opinion. Most people thought he was just being selfish. It backfired....Obviously. I always thought he was a phony.

    https://hotair.com/archives/2016/07/25/cruzs-favorable-rating-nosedives-after-trump-non-endorsement/


    Integrity never "backfires" - except possibly when it comes to politics.
    Cruz's campaign pulled a lot of dirty tricks. Cruz was caught in many lies. That doesn't equate to 'Integrity'....except in politics. He should have just stayed home if he wasn't going to support the nominee. He'll have trouble keeping his senate seat because his supporters think he betrayed the party to promote himself. I know you see it differently, but the numbers don't lie.
    Because accusing someone's father in assassinating JFK is just politics as usual in the Trump era. Well maybe if you're morally depraved.
    alanleroyII
    alanleroyII
    Jul 25, 2016
    9:08am
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    Originally posted by: jphelan
    Back to the original topic. I listened to Ted's speech and he never criticized Trump on the night of the speech. I don't think he even mentioned his name. The next day, Ted doubled down and criticized Trump only AFTER Trump criticized Ted.

    Ted's speech praised first responders, freedom & liberty, and encouraged people to vote in November. Could Donald expect anything more after criticizing Ted's wife and father?

    Even then Donald tried to upstage Ted by shutting down the screens during his speech and entering the auditorium at the most opportune point in the speech.

    Ted earned the second most votes in the primaries. If he stayed home instead, wouldn't that have been even more devisive? That would be akin to Bernie Sanders staying home.

    If I were Ted Cruz, I would have done exactly the same thing.
    "Cruz’s move, however, appears to have backfired. While 60% of Republican voters had a positive impression of the former presidential candidate before the convention, just 33% have one now." As I predicted. That is an epic collapse of public opinion. Most people thought he was just being selfish. It backfired....Obviously. I always thought he was a phony.

    https://hotair.com/archives/2016/07/25/cruzs-favorable-rating-nosedives-after-trump-non-endorsement/


    Integrity never "backfires" - except possibly when it comes to politics.
    Cruz's campaign pulled a lot of dirty tricks. Cruz was caught in many lies. That doesn't equate to 'Integrity'....except in politics. He should have just stayed home if he wasn't going to support the nominee. He'll have trouble keeping his senate seat because his supporters think he betrayed the party to promote himself. I know you see it differently, but the numbers don't lie.
    Because accusing someone's father in assassinating JFK is just politics as usual in the Trump era. Well maybe if you're morally depraved.
    Hey...It was on the front page of the National enquirer.


    Of course I've never claimed any of these yahoos have integrity...Especially Cruz, Clinton and Trump. I just saw a new CNN poll where a whopping 68% of Americans believe Hillary is not Honest and Trustworthy. 68%!



    forkushV
    forkushV
    Jul 25, 2016
    1:21pm
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    Originally posted by: alanleroyII
    I love how you believe the Putin Hacked the DNC and turned that over to Wikileaks because he loves The Donald....without a shred of evidence except 'unnamed' experts...
    Don't know much about journalism either, huh alanleroy? Let me try to clear things up for you.

    When a legit news organization cites unnamed experts, their statements are verified by managing editors or similar, as is the expertise of the experts. They also generally need a pretty good reason for remaining anonymous. The experts could be wrong, but they said what they said.

    Not to overstate things, the hackers are almost certainly Russian. Whether they were working for Putin is deniable, but seems likely to me. TIAT
    jphelan
    jphelan
    Jul 25, 2016
    2:26pm
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    "Cruz was caught in many lies" --- please prove it. I don't accept your word for it. And I don't believe the Donald just because he calls him Lyin' Ted.

    And don't go bringing up his campaign workers repeating what they heard on CNN with respect to the Ben Carson campaign.
    alanleroyII
    alanleroyII
    Jul 25, 2016
    2:50pm
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    Originally posted by: alanleroyII
    I love how you believe the Putin Hacked the DNC and turned that over to Wikileaks because he loves The Donald....without a shred of evidence except 'unnamed' experts...
    Don't know much about journalism either, huh alanleroy? Let me try to clear things up for you.

    When a legit news organization cites unnamed experts, their statements are verified by managing editors or similar, as is the expertise of the experts. They also generally need a pretty good reason for remaining anonymous. The experts could be wrong, but they said what they said.

    Not to overstate things, the hackers are almost certainly Russian. Whether they were working for Putin is deniable, but seems likely to me. TIAT
    Confused again, I see. What I'm questioning is how you or anyone can claim to know the motive is to support Donald Trump....because I sincerely doubt there is any proof of that.

    Maybe lots of hackers had access to that server. Maybe the Russians just hate Obama or America. Maybe Wikileaks paid for the e-mails like they allegedly paid Bradley Manning . Yet you and your team saw fit to claim it was done to help Trump....with no evidence or possible way to know what motivated the hackers.

    So...you must either be a tin hat wearing conspiracy nut or an unscrupulous political hack who will say anything to get a better spin on a new scandal.

    Hell I figured you'd welcome the transparency it brought to the DNC. Just as I imagine you welcomed the transparency your comrade Snowden brought to the CIA.

    alanleroyII
    alanleroyII
    Jul 25, 2016
    3:24pm
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    Originally posted by: jphelan
    "Cruz was caught in many lies" --- please prove it. I don't accept your word for it. And I don't believe the Donald just because he calls him Lyin' Ted.

    And don't go bringing up his campaign workers repeating what they heard on CNN with respect to the Ben Carson campaign.


    Man you only have to listen to what he told the Texas delegation on Friday to catch him in a lie. He started off saying that ‘He did not and WILL NOT say ANYTHING NEGATIVE about Donald Trump. Then he proceeded to go negative on Trump by relitigating the Heidi photo and the father smear. What do you call that but a lie?

    Here’s a fun video that shows Cruz lying about Trump 10 times in 5 minutes. It shows the Cruz lie and then what Trump actually said, so you can see it for yourself.
    Cruz lies 10 times in 5 minutes

    Integrity? What about all the dirty tricks he pulled?

    Rubio calls out Cruz on dirty tricks

    The Man behind Cruz’s dirty tricks

    Trump, Rubio and Carson zero in on Cruz’s dirty tricks

    Cruz camp pulling more dirty tricks

    Cruz dirty tactics

    The bottom line is politicians lie and cheat. Ted Cruz is no exception. He’s no Angel. I think he’s a little worse than most because he wears his faith on his sleeve. MrsAlanLeroy liked Cruz. She's one of the 50% who changed her opinion of him after the convention. She now she thinks he's a little man. I always thought he was a phony.
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