Mighty fine speech

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Its easy to agree with abstract statements.
We want better healthcare. A better economy. More infrastructure. Less Crime. Better educated students.
Does anyone here disagree? No? Then YEA! Great speech.

The specifics across the board on those topics were strangely absent. And that's where the division lies. But I give the president big credit. He's now gone over 24 hours without a childish tweet. That's a good start considering he'll need many of the recipients of those tweets to help fill in the specifics.


You've gotta be joking? Obama's (and evrey other pres. and politician) speaks in the same generalities. All these speeches are are an indication of which direction any particular person is laying out. You're as bad as some of the other critics out there, no matter what, put some sort of dig or negative spin on it. Hell even the CNN people were somewhat praising him right after the speech including that black "whitelash" guy(can't think of his name).

Now if he said"I want open borders" or "raising taxes to bring down the deficit" or whatever, it would've been a completely different speech now wouldn't it?
"we have several people here who who whine and cry when Democrats extend healthcare to 20 million people"

At what cost? We added 12m to the medicaid rolls, taxes went up, premiums went up, lost access to our doctors & in most counties the insurance options dwindled down to one choice. The other 300m people got screwed
^^^ CASE IN POINT. ^ ^^
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Originally posted by: jatki99
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Its easy to agree with abstract statements.
We want better healthcare. A better economy. More infrastructure. Less Crime. Better educated students.
Does anyone here disagree? No? Then YEA! Great speech.

The specifics across the board on those topics were strangely absent. And that's where the division lies. But I give the president big credit. He's now gone over 24 hours without a childish tweet. That's a good start considering he'll need many of the recipients of those tweets to help fill in the specifics.


You've gotta be joking? Obama's (and evrey other pres. and politician) speaks in the same generalities. All these speeches are are an indication of which direction any particular person is laying out. You're as bad as some of the other critics out there, no matter what, put some sort of dig or negative spin on it. Hell even the CNN people were somewhat praising him right after the speech including that black "whitelash" guy(can't think of his name).

Now if he said"I want open borders" or "raising taxes to bring down the deficit" or whatever, it would've been a completely different speech now wouldn't it?


I'd settle for sanity.

I heard big spending increases for military, new homeland security departments, walls, infrastructure, crime suppression, and education.....and that will be paid for with tax cuts (and medicare drug price negotiation).

Democrats had the outline of a healthcare plan when Obama spoke to Congress in 2009. Serious people have serious solutions and can articulate them. Before his great speech Trump admitted this week he is completely dumbfounded by the complexity of addressing healthcare. I guess all his campaign rhetoric to the contrary was just a bunch of BS to get your vote. It worked
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