Mucho respecto

Imagine how conservatives would have reacted had Clinton insisted that detained military personnel were not actually hostages, and then cut a deal to get the people (but not the plane) home by offering two ‘very sorrys’ to the Chinese, while also saying that he had not apologized. What is being hailed as Bush’s shrewd diplomacy would have been savaged as ‘Slick Willie’ contortions.”

Sixteen years later, the Party of God is as hypocritical as ever, if not more.
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Trump in the forum last night:
- he would not add any ground troops to Iraq to fight ISIS
- Obama pulling troops out of Iraq to fight ISIS was a HUUUGGGGEEEE mistake.

Its hard to have mucho respecto for a clown.


Pulling the troops out early was a HUUUUUGE mistake. That's exactly what created the void that was filled by that JV team, remember that phrase? Or did you forget or more likely ignore it and say"oh no it didn't" while throwing in something completely unrelated like birther, benghazi, fox etc., etc., etc.
Obama's international approval ratings far eclipse Bush. YOU QUOTED A YEAR & A HALF OLD STUDY. WHO CARES WHAT THE PEOPLE IN OTHER COUNTRIES THINK - IT IS THE GOVTS THAT COUNT

Obama killed the 911 attackers instead of invading the wrong country. ACTUALLY WE HAVE BEEN FREEING THEM

Obama ended the 10 billion dollar/week occupation of Iraq and Hoops has been crying about the shrinking deficit ever since. - I DON'T THINK WE WERE SPENDING $520B A YEAR IN IRAQ. OBAMA RAN THE DEFICT UP TO OVER $1T & THEN BRAGS ABOUT LOWERING IT TO LEVELS ABOVE PRES. BUSH. THE DEBT IS PROJECTED TO GO BACK UP TO OVER $1T

And the best Hoops can come up with now is ..... no red carpet in China - CHINA WAS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE ARE DISSED ON A REGULAR BASIS. LOOK ABOVE & YOU WILL SEE A QUICK LIST OF OBAMA'S FAILURES
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Originally posted by: hoops2
WHO CARES WHAT THE PEOPLE IN OTHER COUNTRIES THINK -



You do - Hence you crying about China's disposition toward Obama. Try to keep the other corner of your mouth up to date.

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Originally posted by: jatki99


Pulling the troops out early was a HUUUUUGE mistake. .



Ok - well since you support the 10 billion dollar/week occupation of Iraq .....and the multiple back-to-back tours of duty of our soldiers in that effort....and the countless cases of PTSD resulting .....

please refrain from crying about fiscal deficits and our "weak military" going forward. Clearly you aren't serious on those subjects.


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: jatki99


Pulling the troops out early was a HUUUUUGE mistake. .



Ok - well since you support the 10 billion dollar/week occupation of Iraq .....and the multiple back-to-back tours of duty of our soldiers in that effort....and the countless cases of PTSD resulting .....

please refrain from crying about fiscal deficits and our "weak military" going forward. Clearly you aren't serious on those subjects.


I never bitched about the deficits when we were at war, I DO and HAVE bitched about Obama's continual HUUUUGE deficits AND the total debt (quickly closing on 20 TRILLION) and not a helluva lot to show for it. Remember how Obamacare was going to save everyone so much money? I still remember his '08 promise on how if he hadn't cut the deficit in half by '12, he wouldn't run again. Do you recall that one or are those another "nope, never happened" moment?

Also, if you had ever paid attention to things I've said instead of lumping me in just because, you'd know one of the biggest cuts I'd like to see is the defense budget and not the troops, but to the billion(s) dollars on DoD projects.
Lockheed and the rest will still survive. This was inane as forky accusing me of being pro-life because of the big guy in sky. He looked extremely stupid after going on about it. Just because.
I said the Chinese govt insulted Obama, not the people. Work on your reading.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: hoops2
WHO CARES WHAT THE PEOPLE IN OTHER COUNTRIES THINK -



You do - Hence you crying about China's disposition toward Obama. Try to keep the other corner of your mouth up to date.


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Originally posted by: billryan
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Originally posted by: OddsWrkin
ISIS became significant after we left Iraq. Nobody had heard of them when Bush was in office.

Losing respect? I don't recall Russia nor China continuously kicking sand in our face while Bush was in office. Not so with the current CIC.



Pretty much anyone with a brain knows ISIS is the group formerly known as Al Qaeda in Iraq. I can see why you were unaware of them, though.
Perhaps you forget that China held the crew of one of our top spy planes captive for a bit and took the plane apart.
Remember who was Commander in Chief at the time? I imagine you don't.
Who was President when Russian troops took over Georgia? Remember GW calling on Russia not to recognize the two parts of Georgia they had occupied, and Russia doing exactly that the very next day?


Anyone with a brain knows that ISIS is a result of withdrawal from IRAQ. It is obvious why you were unaware of this, though.

Anyone with a brain knows that China is thumbing their nose at the USA almost on a daily basis, easy to understand why you are unaware.

Anyone with a brain knows that Russia is making frequent threatening fighter aircraft passes to our ships and aircraft, another item that has obviously been missed by you.
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Originally posted by: OddsWrkin
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Originally posted by: billryan
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Originally posted by: OddsWrkin
ISIS became significant after we left Iraq. Nobody had heard of them when Bush was in office.

Losing respect? I don't recall Russia nor China continuously kicking sand in our face while Bush was in office. Not so with the current CIC.



Pretty much anyone with a brain knows ISIS is the group formerly known as Al Qaeda in Iraq. I can see why you were unaware of them, though.
Perhaps you forget that China held the crew of one of our top spy planes captive for a bit and took the plane apart.
Remember who was Commander in Chief at the time? I imagine you don't.
Who was President when Russian troops took over Georgia? Remember GW calling on Russia not to recognize the two parts of Georgia they had occupied, and Russia doing exactly that the very next day?


Anyone with a brain knows that ISIS is a result of withdrawal from IRAQ...
Leave it to me once again to be the peacemaker! Here is something we can ALL agree on:

Either the folks at Foreign Policy magazine are complete shit-f0r-brains morons when it comes to...foreign policy, OR OddsWrkin is a complete shit-for-brains moron on the subject. It's got to be one or the other.

We can all make up our own minds as to which is which.

Was ISIS significant before we left Iraq.

Had anybody heard of them while GeeDub was in office?
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