Muliple Free Play offers that demand hotel stay

Most offers say you must be a hotel guest. Checking in, playing in the casino, eating meals and charging to the room all constitute being a hotel guest. You don't have to sleep in the room. Hell, you don't have to SLEEP anywhere if you don't want to and many people don't while they're in Vegas! There's no moral issue about taking an offer and not sleeping in the bed if you're giving them play.

MoneyLA - Jen's right -- you somehow keep stating over and over that people taking an offer are not playing anything beyond the free play. I don't understand where you're getting this from since many of us have stated otherwise.

BTW, I'm a business owner. All I require of my customers is that they pay me for the work we do. If we book an offer and give the casino play we're paying them for their work. Period.

Exactly right.

is it really just the wording that gets you? like if it said "must be registered hotel guest to receive dining credit", would registering be enough for you to use it?

just for clarification purposes: i am not at all arguing anything you are saying. you have your own set of morals that is the opposite of mine and that is fine by me. im just genuinely curious.

But what are terms of the agreement? Do you ever read the fine print before signing a contract? As a business owner you should be used to contracts with specific terms to which both parties agree and must abide in order to fulfill the contract.

Yes, it is just the wording of the fine print that gets me. I'm a stickler for details like that.

If they changed the wording to "registered hotel guest" then I guess by the letter of the agreement you could register and argue that you met the terms but I still think you're violating the spirit of the agreement. Just like the wording that says "must stay at hotel". A good lawyer could argue that as long as your are "staying inside the hotel" while you gamble (rather than playing from the parking lot) then you are meeting the letter of the agreement.

I'm not one to try and find loopholes in fine print in order to welsh out of my side of an agreement.

gotcha. you and i disagree but i respect your viewpoint.

You know maybe money has a point. The palazzo no longer sends offers to me.

Those free play offers are like a bar offering the first drink free. Some might drink the one and run. Some might feel morally obligated or just for fun buy another or two. But it is the alcoholic that makes all the money for the bar.

It's more like a strip club that has a two drink minimum. If you go in and buy one drink, you still owe them another drink purchase even after spending $1000 in private lap dances. I'd bet if you asked the bar manager if you can skip the second drink he'd say "fuggeddaboutit". Likewise if you call a casino host and say you want the freeeplay but then go back home and sleep, they'd review your account and say "not a problem sir, please come to see me when you arrive and I'll get you squared away without you having to take a room".

2 years ago for my B-day I checked into Caesars for the weekend (didn't go on an offer but claimed a free room). I got to the room at 4-AM, and ended up having to leave for a "emergency" at 2-PM the next day. During my "stay" I had room service, and lunch at Augustus Cafe before I left. I did not even get a chance to insert my card in a machine let alone place a single bet. Before that I would get free play offers and shopping spree offers close to $1,000. The months after that I was only getting $75 at most $250. Since going back to Caesars only a couple of times since then but putting in a good amount of play volume, my offers are finally starting to increase again.

Jen and others. As Ive said ALL ALONG if you are giving the casino lots of action without staying in the hotel, then yes taking the room and free play and not sleeping in it is fine.... and sharing your time with other casinos is also fine. Go to it and win lots of money.

But someone please address what Sue Casey pointed out -- that there is a limited number of rooms available for comps?? As I said earlier, this is a wrinkle I was not aware of.