Muliple Free Play offers that demand hotel stay

Like I said...It's not about what I think. It's about what the Casinos know. They measure it. They know what you lose. They know if you're profitable to them. Anything else....like the 'bad faith' comment is just emotional posturing. They require a check-in to collect. You check-in and collect. Nothing "Bad Faith" about it. They base your offers on your Play. They know what the bottom line is.

I thought you were a bottom line kind of guy. Obviously not. A bottom line kind of guy looks at the cold hard facts. "This guy gives us X Coin In" or is a "$50 4 Hour Table Guy". These are the facts they care about. Not whether you messed up the bed or used the toilet. So is your guestion "Why do they require you to check-in at all'? The answer is (drumroll please), because it's time they can Guarantee you're in the casino. Just like why they require you to be there for contests.

You're arguing that it's better for AlanLeroy's Nudist casino if the Hot Chick never vists and never loses her 10K...cause that's what's going to happen if I don't give her that freeroll. I love nudist freerolls....

So here's the question...Would a casino rather a gambler come to their casino, check in, get some free play and then play their (casino profitable) rated coin-in OR not come in at all. If those are the only choices what would you prefer?

Very good point. If the casino wants you back bad enough they will give you an offer. Free room, free play, free food and maybe even airfare and limo service.

I don't understand how a hotel can check you out early. Suppose you pulled an all nighter and don't go up to your room until after the maids have checked your room, and reported it as "empty"? It would really be great to go to the room and fall asleep......only to find someone trying to get into your room at 4 PM.

I know if I was a maid and paid by the hour, I would keep my mouth shut. Use that extra time it would it would have taken to clean the room to take a nap, have a couple smokes, or just sit and watch TV. The last thing in the world I would do would check them out early!

An "all nighter" is not going to get you "checked out" if there are bags in the room, toiletries in the bathroom etc. What we are talking about here is a "vacant room." When a room is VACANT the housecleaning staff makes a report to the front desk. This is standard operating procedure. In fact, some hotels have charges for "early checkouts" and some hotels have charges for "no shows" and if you are going to try this multiple room check in idea, you should see the fine print about fees and penalties.

A friend of mine raised this question, and I dont know the answer: if a room appears to have not been used, does the housecleaning staff still change the bed linens? My friend asked the question because the guest might have made their own bed and the hotel doesn't want to take any chances??

My wife and I bought a home in Las Vegas a couple of years ago. When we visit Las Vegas we check in to a comped room and also stay at our house. We pack an overnight bag in case we decide to stay in our comped room due to drinking or desire to gamble late into the evening. Our room is ALWAYS VACANT unless we decide to stay and then we grab our overnight bag out of the car and head up to the room. We have NEVER had a maid check us out early yet we leave our room VACANT each day until/unless we decide to stay in it. The casino gets all of our play but we prefer going to our real home at night. We use the comped room as a Plan B.

So speaking from first hand experience of a VACANT room, we have NEVER been checked out. Has anybody on here been checked out early?

So, when I don't have a bag or anything else in the room (since it all took a trip to Chicago while I flew to Vegas for two nights and didn't catch up with me til I got home) you think I'll be checked out? Nope! Didn't happen, in fact Housekeeping has NEVER checked me out of an unoccupied room in years of double booking at a number of different strip hotels.

"Early Checkout" ? I'm NOT checking out early, so that doesn't apply. Early Checkout is when you have a room booked for X number of days and you actually checkout earlier than that final date. If I book for 3 nights and checkout on the day after the 3rd night I am NOT an early checkout. So Nope, again!

"No show"? Nope, yet again - When one SHOWS UP and Checks in, one CANNOT be a no show.

When was the last time you stayed in a hotel? For Water conservation reasons many now request that if you want the linens changed you place a card on the bed saying so, otherwise they stay until you check out. At which point, yes, they do change them for the next guest regardless of whether you used the bed or not.
Same with towels in the bathroom - if they are hanging up they don't usually get replaced until the end of your stay, but if you leave them in the tub or on the floor, out they go.

As you've heard from several people here who, unlike yourself, have actual, personal experience with this - double booking and not using a room causes NO problems of the sort you keep trying to suggest. Housekeeping doesn't care - they simply check the room off their list as "clean" and move on to the next. The casino doesn't care - as long as you are spending enough time and money playing on their property to keep those offers coming. It's in their best interest that you spend as little time as possible in your room and as much time as possible on the casino floor. However, If you stiff them, expect to see those offers dry up quickly. It's the "magic" of the Players Cards & Pit Critters that makes this all work! The Casino tracks you playing there (or not) , and then decides if you're worth sending more offers to in the future.

Bottom line - if the casinos you book at have an issue with your use of their offers, they will downgrade them or just not send you offers anymore. End of story.

Excellent post, Mistrhia! Now maybe we can put an end to this ridiculous thread that got hijacked long ago from the original poster's simple question about checking out of hotels.

thanks for all the information. glad you folks are working the system so well. keep at it. Ive never done it.

Working the system? Or maybe just the system working or maybe the system not working....and how do we tell the difference? The key question is how stupid are the folks in Casino Marketing. Do they realize that people are taking their free play offers and not actually staying at the hotel? I bet they not only know it, they expect it and they count on it.

If they know this is common, do they really care? I'd say they care most about getting the coin-in.

Now, if they were really smart, they'd give the player the option of taking the room or not taking the room.....That way, they still get the coin-in, but don't have to pretend to clean an empty room. If they were brilliant, they'd come up with better ways to get players to stick around ....AlanLeroy's Nudist Casino comes to mind.

On the other hand, the folks in Casino Marketing may be really naive and don't have a clue that their free play offers are encouraging people to fake getting a room. It's possible that the poor casinos are now losing their butts because the gambling community is taking advantage of their generosity and stupidity.

Now as to whether this practice is somehow an unethical or in bad faith; by checking in you are fullfilling the terms of their offer. By putting in your normal coin-in, you are demonstrating you're a loyal customer worthy of future offers. It's a beautiful relationship.