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Originally posted by: malibber2
Number one it is not clear they supported anything other than it being used as a source of emergency water. Number 2 If you haven’t heard Democracy was suspended for black folks in Flint and other areas in Michigan. You either go along with what the appointed Dictator says or you are removed from elected office. If elected officials in these poor black areas want their paychecks as mayor or city council members, they have to goose step to the tune of the republican appointed dictator. Michigan’s emergency manger law renders elected local officials nothing more than mere figureheads with no authority to do anything. Even if I assume everything you say about local folks approving it is true, it means nothing because under Michigan law (Passed by the Republicans), they had no authority to approve it.
Furthermore, what makes this thing so wrong is that after people in the Governor’s office knew the water was bad, they kept trying to discredit the scientists that did the testing and kept telling the residents to drink the poison. You think because some lackey that serves at the governor’s pleasure says the water is safe, that it is the problem of lackey’s political party.
Even if we were to buy your ridiculous claims that the Democrats were of equal blame for selecting the water source, what happened afterwards was all on the Republicans that controlled the state.
Trying to run government on simplistic conservative talking points doesn’t work. In the 1960s, Flint had more than twice the population than it does now. The infrastructure including the roads, water and sewer were built to serve a population twice the current size. The population that is left is the lower income half of the population, so you have a tax base that can basically pay for a quarter or less of the existing infrastructure. There is no elected official Democratic or Republican that can magically make these types of numbers work on the local level. It is cowardly to blame the (black) population for changes in the automobile industry and claim mismanagement when the problem is simple math.
And that is really what this is all about. Cheap white republicans don’t want to acknowledge simple mathematical facts like these because they are cheap and a lot of them are racist. It is unsavory for them to think they might have to use State Funds to fix problems in Flint or Detroit because the blacks live there, so they spew propaganda like blacks are incapable of running a city. They simplistically think white folks just need to show them negros how to run the city like a business and it will be problem solved. The next thing you know 9,000 kids are being poisoned because the republicans running the city like a business didn’t want to spend $100 a day on anti-corrosive treatments.
Originally posted by: malibber2
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Originally posted by: alanleroyIIQuote
Originally posted by: malibber2
Lol Alan tries to blame Democrats because a state employee that was hired by the Republican Governor to serve as dictator of Flint was a Democrat. I guess Obama isn't responsible for any policy that involved the military prior to 2011 because he retained Robert Gates, a Republican, to be defense secretary.
What about the Democrat Mayor and all those other city officials that supported the river water? You know....the local guys that you think can somehow manage better than the other democrat 'dictator' they agreed with. You're trying to turn a bureaucratic fuck up into a partisan issue...which it's not.
I'm just pointing out that a lot of the guys your side claims screwed it up are on your team. As to not telling the People IMMEDIATELY when it was found out...well that's just wrong and any politician or bureaucrat or doctor or scientist involved...Including the EPA and the Governor and local politicians should suffer for it.
In reality...I don't blame 'Democrats' or 'Republicans' though. I blame the individuals involved...bureaucrats and politicians. I blame the water engineers and water quality managers who approved this thing without enough study or testing.
I do object to your's and forkies blanket smear of Republicans. If you're going to play that game you might as well blame Obama too since the buck stops there and his EPA is responsible for...wait for it...'Environmental Protection'.
There's plenty of blame to go around. I just wish you'd admit it.
Number one it is not clear they supported anything other than it being used as a source of emergency water. Number 2 If you haven’t heard Democracy was suspended for black folks in Flint and other areas in Michigan. You either go along with what the appointed Dictator says or you are removed from elected office. If elected officials in these poor black areas want their paychecks as mayor or city council members, they have to goose step to the tune of the republican appointed dictator. Michigan’s emergency manger law renders elected local officials nothing more than mere figureheads with no authority to do anything. Even if I assume everything you say about local folks approving it is true, it means nothing because under Michigan law (Passed by the Republicans), they had no authority to approve it.
Furthermore, what makes this thing so wrong is that after people in the Governor’s office knew the water was bad, they kept trying to discredit the scientists that did the testing and kept telling the residents to drink the poison. You think because some lackey that serves at the governor’s pleasure says the water is safe, that it is the problem of lackey’s political party.
Even if we were to buy your ridiculous claims that the Democrats were of equal blame for selecting the water source, what happened afterwards was all on the Republicans that controlled the state.
Trying to run government on simplistic conservative talking points doesn’t work. In the 1960s, Flint had more than twice the population than it does now. The infrastructure including the roads, water and sewer were built to serve a population twice the current size. The population that is left is the lower income half of the population, so you have a tax base that can basically pay for a quarter or less of the existing infrastructure. There is no elected official Democratic or Republican that can magically make these types of numbers work on the local level. It is cowardly to blame the (black) population for changes in the automobile industry and claim mismanagement when the problem is simple math.
And that is really what this is all about. Cheap white republicans don’t want to acknowledge simple mathematical facts like these because they are cheap and a lot of them are racist. It is unsavory for them to think they might have to use State Funds to fix problems in Flint or Detroit because the blacks live there, so they spew propaganda like blacks are incapable of running a city. They simplistically think white folks just need to show them negros how to run the city like a business and it will be problem solved. The next thing you know 9,000 kids are being poisoned because the republicans running the city like a business didn’t want to spend $100 a day on anti-corrosive treatments.
I have a question. When you say "they"suspended democracy for black people, are you saying they were no longer eligible to vote? Only white people were allowed to vote is what you're saying then? Or is that your interpretation of how things were? Was it a white person who had control over everything?
