My Obamacare prediction of higher than promised cost will come true

We are finding out, as I and many others who know pay attention to the costs of government giveaway programs, that this program will cost far more than promised. Anyone who didn't believe this wouldn't happen hasn't payed attention to past giveaway programs................they are always far far more expensive than promised, and they ALWAYS expand.

https://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-06-26/obamacare-s-prognosis-grows-dimmer?cmpid=yhoo
When Libs say it will cost a dollar, it will cost $10, it is the new American way. JFK "ask not........." he would be considered a racist, fascist pig, with no heart. JFK would be very close to a TEA partier. Obama should make a speech " ask not what you can do for your country, ask how many free-bees your country can give to you, all we ask for is your vote"

From Boilerman's Bloomberg reference:

" . . . people insured through the law’s exchanges have higher rates of serious medical conditions. Of the enrollees who have seen a doctor or other health-care provider in the first quarter of this year, 27 percent have significant medical problems, including diabetes, cancer, heart trouble and psychiatric conditions. That rate is substantially higher than that for patients in nonexchange market plans over the same period. And it’s more than double the rate of those who were able to hold onto their existing individual market insurance plans after President Barack Obama was forced [? - DD] to allow them to keep them [by an unconstitutional change to the Law - DD]."

So, . . . let poor old DonDiego get this straight, . . . folks who wouldn't or couldn't buy health insurance without a Federal directive to do so accompanied by a subsidy are less healthy than folks who were buying health insurance? Who'd 'a thunk it?
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
So, . . . let poor old DonDiego get this straight, . . . folks who wouldn't or couldn't buy health insurance without a Federal directive to do so accompanied by a subsidy are less healthy than folks who were buying health insurance? Who'd 'a thunk it?
Exactly. The uninsured were less healthy than the insured. Apparently having access to health care makes people healthier. Who'd 'a thunk it indeed!

And now we see people who couldn't get insurance due to a pre-existing condition getting insurance. Of course they were less healthy!

I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that the policy director of Mitt Romney's 2012 presidential campaign would write such a laughable hit piece.

So chilly finally admits that Americans were sold a bill of goods & that obamacare is going to cost more than he said it would
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
We are finding out, as I and many others who know pay attention to the costs of government giveaway programs, that this program will cost far more than promised. Anyone who didn't believe this wouldn't happen hasn't payed attention to past giveaway programs................they are always far far more expensive than promised, and they ALWAYS expand.

https://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-06-26/obamacare-s-prognosis-grows-dimmer?cmpid=yhoo
Your article IMPLIES costs MAY be higher in the future, without offering a single data point to prove it. Where's the beef?

In April the CBO reduced its estimate of the cost of Obamacare next year. Does Boilerman have a timeline so we can measure his prediction vs the clueless people in the CBO?

Aside from the trivial fact of 15Million+ people now being able to get treatment when they are sick....I am mostly interested in the fiscal responsibility of the law and its impact on our deficit. Considering many states like mine (and Boilerman's) that refuse to expand Medicaid I think the fiscal nature of the law is a slam dunk. I'd rather see the fiscal nature of the law come closer to its projections and cover more people. But conservative governors seem to think sick people are better off when they drink chicken soup instead of going to a hospital.

Here's my prediction: More than half the states that have rejected Medicaid expansion will embrace it by the time Hillary Clinton gives her inaugural address in 2017. And all the states will have expanded Medicaid by her reelection in 2020.
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Originally posted by: hoops2
So chilly finally admits that Americans were sold a bill of goods & that obamacare is going to cost more than he said it would
Look, I obviously don't mind being trolled, and it's basically the only tool in your toolbox and I find it funny.

But WTF are you talking about? I said no such thing.

Critics said enrollment would be low but it's high.

Critics said people wouldn't pay and they did.

Critics said more people would lose coverage than gain it, but the opposite actually happened.

Critics said the costs would be sky high when in fact they are below projections.

Critics said there'd be a death spiral from too few young people, but they signed up and there's no death spiral.

Critics said we'd be greeted as liberators and find weapons of mass . . . , oops, wrong topic. Same people though, always wrong.
A fellow, Jake Novak, over at that conservative bastion CNBC has come up with a scorecard on Obamacare:

"So let's look at the six-month Obamacare scorecard:
Patients: inconclusive, depends on your political affiliation. [DonDiego finds this a cop-out.]
Doctors: More work, less money.
Politicians: Still fighting.
Insurers: winning.

How is any of this any different than it was in 2009? Was it really worth ripping the country apart over yet another partisan issue to enrich the same insurance companies just about everyone supposedly hated or wanted to change?

Yes, those greedy, heartless, bureaucratic, and anti-competitive health-insurance companies that President Obama kinda sorta blamed for his mother's death and Republicans blasted for seeking a bailout, and doctors accused of interfering with their medical judgment are all still alive and kicking in the 2014 world of the ACA.

And they're doing really, really well.

Moody's noted this week that major insurers are raising rates, and it called that a credit-positive move. Further, the ratings agency warned that insurers who don't raise rates enough face crushing costs from ACA-inflated health care claims. So jack 'em up CEOs!"


And best of all, . . . if through some unfortunate, and given the above results apparently most unlikely, miscalculation an insurance company were to price its policy too low and lose money, . . . the government would bail them out.
It's a win-win.



On July 1st of 2014 my policy will double in cost for the same policy due to Obamacare. THANKS FOR HELPING ME OUT! He said things were going to change, he wasn't lying about that. This reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw that said "I'll keep my money and you can keep the change".

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