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pjstroh
pjstroh
Mar 11, 2017
9:56pm
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Liberals are not submitting a bill to tHe CBo. So what liberal assumptions are you afraid of being scored inaccurately?

Nobody can predict %100 accurately all of the variables of the bill: How many people sign up, medical inflation, unemployment, etc.... but the CBO is better than anyone else. The Republican bill keeps Obamacare's most expensive provision for pre-existing conditions but has removed the payment mechanism for it. If you are the fiscal-hawk that you pretend to be then you would demand Republicans explain how they reconcile their bill.
IndyBoilerman
IndyBoilerman
Mar 11, 2017
11:04pm
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The CBO is a calculator...............that's it. You've touted them for years, like with Obamacare. How'd that work out? The Libs lied to the COB about the numbers, and the numbers they added up didn't turn into reality.

When did I say the Libs were soon submitting anything to the CBO? I've listened to you tout this organization for the past 8 years, as they presented numbers always far from reality. That's because Libs gave them lies to add up. Bullshit in, equals bullshit out.


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Liberals are not submitting a bill to tHe CBo. So what liberal assumptions are you afraid of being scored inaccurately?

Nobody can predict %100 accurately all of the variables of the bill: How many people sign up, medical inflation, unemployment, etc.... but the CBO is better than anyone else. The Republican bill keeps Obamacare's most expensive provision for pre-existing conditions but has removed the payment mechanism for it. If you are the fiscal-hawk that you pretend to be then you would demand Republicans explain how they reconcile their bill.


lvfritz
lvfritz
Mar 11, 2017
11:55pm
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Which part of the bill do you want scored? The initial bill? Or their overall plan?

Since they have to pass a plan (like the idiot Dems did) through reconciliation, the whole bill will not be seen at one time. Once they repeal this farce, they have to add legislation to it, to get to 'their' plan.

The left here really needs to get over this election.....YOU LOST.....you don't have the votes anymore. The kids have been pushed out by the country, and the adults are back in charge. It's the hap, happiest time, in eight years!

Now have a nice day.....I'll be here with a towel for you whenever you feel a need for one. Just consider me your safe space on this campus.
pjstroh
pjstroh
Mar 12, 2017
1:03am
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Originally posted by: IndyBoilerman
The CBO is a calculator...............that's it. You've touted them for years, like with Obamacare. How'd that work out? The Libs lied to the COB about the numbers, and the numbers they added up didn't turn into reality.

When did I say the Libs were soon submitting anything to the CBO? I've listened to you tout this organization for the past 8 years, as they presented numbers always far from reality. That's because Libs gave them lies to add up. Bullshit in, equals bullshit out.


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Liberals are not submitting a bill to tHe CBo. So what liberal assumptions are you afraid of being scored inaccurately?

Nobody can predict %100 accurately all of the variables of the bill: How many people sign up, medical inflation, unemployment, etc.... but the CBO is better than anyone else. The Republican bill keeps Obamacare's most expensive provision for pre-existing conditions but has removed the payment mechanism for it. If you are the fiscal-hawk that you pretend to be then you would demand Republicans explain how they reconcile their bill.


That's right..the CBO said Obamacare would reduce th deficit. You said the opposite. The CBO was right and you were wrong. Conservatives like to point to the fact that the CBO did not forecast the exact cost of Obamacare accurately. So what? Their overall analysis of its affect on the deficit, ability to be paid for, and people covered was correct. And your's wasn't.

The CBO is appointed by the same people crafting legislation. If their analysis is bs then so Is that of the people crafting the bill. There's a reason why Paul Ryan doesn't want his bill scored. It's not paid for - just like Republicans Medicare part D program from the Bush era.

And Conservatives in the base like Boilerman will ignore it this time around just like they did then. Please spare us any future speeches about deficits and your grandkids having to pay the bill

IndyBoilerman
IndyBoilerman
Mar 12, 2017
1:15am
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Boiler's plan is for the government to NOT pay for any able bodied American's healthcare. I believe that citizens should fend for themselves and live with the consequences of their actions.

PJ should stop complaining about Boiler's plan being expensive when it's actually free!


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: IndyBoilerman
The CBO is a calculator...............that's it. You've touted them for years, like with Obamacare. How'd that work out? The Libs lied to the COB about the numbers, and the numbers they added up didn't turn into reality.

When did I say the Libs were soon submitting anything to the CBO? I've listened to you tout this organization for the past 8 years, as they presented numbers always far from reality. That's because Libs gave them lies to add up. Bullshit in, equals bullshit out.


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Liberals are not submitting a bill to tHe CBo. So what liberal assumptions are you afraid of being scored inaccurately?

Nobody can predict %100 accurately all of the variables of the bill: How many people sign up, medical inflation, unemployment, etc.... but the CBO is better than anyone else. The Republican bill keeps Obamacare's most expensive provision for pre-existing conditions but has removed the payment mechanism for it. If you are the fiscal-hawk that you pretend to be then you would demand Republicans explain how they reconcile their bill.


That's right..the CBO said Obamacare would reduce th deficit. You said the opposite. The CBO was right and you were wrong. Conservatives like to point to the fact that the CBO did not forecast the exact cost of Obamacare accurately. So what? Their overall analysis of its affect on the deficit, ability to be paid for, and people covered was correct. And your's wasn't.

The CBO is appointed by the same people crafting legislation. If their analysis is bs then so Is that of the people crafting the bill. There's a reason why Paul Ryan doesn't want his bill scored. It's not paid for - just like Republicans Medicare part D program from the Bush era.

And Conservatives in the base like Boilerman will ignore it this time around just like they did then. Please spare us any future speeches about deficits and your grandkids having to pay the bill


pjstroh
pjstroh
Mar 12, 2017
5:11am
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Boiler's plan isn't on the table. The Republican plan is. And they don't want you to see any of the math behind it. And that doesn't seem to bother you at all....even after your million complaints on this board about deficits.
billryan
billryan
Mar 12, 2017
5:29am
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Trumpcare takes money from poor people who need it to pay for medical insurance and gives it to rich people who don't need it. I haven't seen anything that says it will reduce the money given out, just that rich able bodied folks will get more of it, and poorer able bodied folks will get less. Then those poor uninsured folks end up in hospitals and the middle class ends up paying for it.
And the band plays on....
jatki
jatki
Mar 12, 2017
7:10am
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Originally posted by: billryan
Some people grow, some diminish. This thread is a purrfect example of that.


Yea, Pelosi's a perfect example of that.
IndyBoilerman
IndyBoilerman
Mar 12, 2017
8:24am
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Will PJ then finally say to the LVA readers that the medical plan that Boiler supports does not, in fact, increase the deficit.


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Boiler's plan isn't on the table. The Republican plan is. And they don't want you to see any of the math behind it. And that doesn't seem to bother you at all....even after your million complaints on this board about deficits.


IndyBoilerman
IndyBoilerman
Mar 12, 2017
8:28am
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We give free education to all. We give free college education to the poor. We must now give free medical to those who choose to not take advantage of all of this free shit?

Oh my.


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Originally posted by: billryan
Trumpcare takes money from poor people who need it to pay for medical insurance and gives it to rich people who don't need it. I haven't seen anything that says it will reduce the money given out, just that rich able bodied folks will get more of it, and poorer able bodied folks will get less. Then those poor uninsured folks end up in hospitals and the middle class ends up paying for it.
And the band plays on....


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