Nearing Completion of Evaluation of RS system (not)


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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
MrMarcus: how, in your opinion, does this affect the credibility of Frank's evaluation of the RS system? If it has no effect please say so.


Since Frank has stated his evaluation goes beyond the pure mathematics, then by definition it will be biased. So would any evaluation by anyone. For example, it will be interesting to see if Frank covers Singer's claims which are provably false. If he doesn't, then his evaluation will be lacking in at least one way and you can decide how that affects the credibility.

The problem you have is you're looking for something that doesn't exist. You want Frank to tell you that Singer's system has some kind of mathematical validity. It doesn't. Any positive things that Frank will say will be about what I call side-effects. Those kinds of effects are generally debatable. Some will value them and others will not.

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Originally posted by: arcimedes
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
MrMarcus: how, in your opinion, does this affect the credibility of Frank's evaluation of the RS system? If it has no effect please say so.


Since Frank has stated his evaluation goes beyond the pure mathematics, then by definition it will be biased. So would any evaluation by anyone. For example, it will be interesting to see if Frank covers Singer's claims which are provably false. If he doesn't, then his evaluation will be lacking in at least one way and you can decide how that affects the credibility.

The problem you have is you're looking for something that doesn't exist. You want Frank to tell you that Singer's system has some kind of mathematical validity. It doesn't. Any positive things that Frank will say will be about what I call side-effects. Those kinds of effects are generally debatable. Some will value them and others will not.


Frank explained the problem on my forum when he said "what we have here is a major failure to communicate ... The main issue here is use of language ... "

Frank made an interesting comment about paytables. He said
"I certainly don't expect to get 103% return from a 103% game.".
Do you Arc? Because that is exactly what the entire debate comes down to.
Money, I hope you continue to post more often. MrMarcus' and your posts bring an interesting alternative perspective to these discussions.

Thanks Snidely but take that up with the moderator. Either chipchic or jenaphir had me banned.
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Thanks Snidely but take that up with the moderator. Either chipchic or jenaphir had me banned.


why the fuck would i have you banned?

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Originally posted by: jenaphir
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Thanks Snidely but take that up with the moderator. Either chipchic or jenaphir had me banned.


why the fuck would i have you banned?


Why would you be banned? You've never personally attacked anyone unless thoroyghly provoked.

I don't think CC has even been banned.
Consider two similar, but DIFFERENT questions.

1. A roulette wheel is spun 3800 times and the results are recorded as red or black or green. Then the green results are removed, creating a string of r’s and b’s, roughly 3600. Then that string is broken down, sequentially, into pairs. Then one of those pairs is selected at random. If we know one of the results in that randomly selected pair is red, what is the chance both results in the pair are red? (Answer = 1/3).

2. A roulette wheel has been spun twice. We are informed by a reliable source that neither result was green and one of the two results is red. What is the chance both results are red? (Answer = 50%). Does it matter whether the information packet we received contained the sequence of the red result? (Answer = No). Does it matter whether the information packet we received contains the ball number of the red result? (Answer = No).

Likewise with the first two animals into the first pen. Likewise with the last two animals left in the corral. If one is female, the chance both are female is 50%.

It is only when the pair is selected by random sampling, from a large population of similar pairs, that the answer is 1/3.

Frank’s question posited one woman and two children. Therefore, Frank was asking question 2, and the answers, given the information provided, were 25%, 50%, and 50%.

And, yes, what we have here is failure of communication. "Failure to communicate" implies a locus for the failure.
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Originally posted by: snidely333

Why would you be banned? You've never personally attacked anyone unless thoroyghly provoked.



well since he is posting after both quitting AND being banned, im thinking that maybe he just doesnt know what either word means.

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Originally posted by: jenaphir
im thinking that maybe he just doesnt know what either word means.


We call that "Business as Usual" or BAU.
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