Nearing Completion of Evaluation of RS system (not)

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Originally posted by: FrankKneeland

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Originally posted by: jatki99
I have no why idea why i'm chiming in here, but i have to ask you arc,why do you really give a shit about this? It has absolutely no bearing on you,does it? You've stated the math point ad nauseum,why do you persist?

J

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Arci persists because the only thing more annoying than having somebody disagree with you, is having them say that they agree and then prove otherwise. It's the VP equivalent of beating your child while telling them it's because you love them, and if you didn't care you wouldn't beat them. I would be surprised if this sort of thing didn't bug Arci to high heaven.

I don't agree with how serious he seems to take it, but I certainly sympathize. I can feel his pain, though for me it's more of a dull ache and easily treated. I just posted a comment on this "don't dispute the math issue". I cover it in the RS eval. I will make no attempts to continue fielding fly balls into the 107 inning.

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Originally posted by: FrankKneeland

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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Arc for the umpteeth time Singer does not dispute the math. His plays are nothing more than taking a shot at getting something better than what the math calls for.

This is why this whole debate about Singer is nonsense.

There is nothing to debate. There is nothing to discuss. As I said before he is like the craps bettor who bets the horn. He says he got lucky betting his way.

He also says he quits playing when he reaches a win goal.

He also says he follows the math 95 percent of the time.

You know what's amazing? People have been making a big stink over NOTHING.

Tell me Arc would you make a similar stink over a craps player who bets the horn and gets lucky?

Singer wins because he is a good money manager AND he knows when to leave. The special plys that you make a fuss over are really insignificant in the overall picture.

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Money we covered this on your forum already. Have you forgotten?

We discussed that the mathematical approach to AP allows for no personal choice whatsoever, and that the mathematical approach also implicitly states that nothing beyond the math is required, or should ever be employed under any circumstances. You don't seem to get this at all.

If one deviates from the mathematically optimal play, they are disputing the math, even if they go on to say, "I'm not disputing the math, I just want to hold these other cards."

It would be like saying, "I don't dispute anything the Bible says and follow it flawlessly, I just prefer to worship Baal and have the occasional orgy." One could actually say this and not be disputing the Bible if the Bile didn't say, "Put no other gods before me and stop having orgies!" (or at least invite me)

If you don't dispute the math you follow the math every single hand, all the time without question.

Doing otherwise is "dispute", so far as the mathematical people are concerned. It may not be by your definition, but if you want to communicate with other people, you need to start thinking about what they mean as well as what they say.

This will all be covered in the eval in more depth.

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Originally posted by: Normscash
Yes, but please don't tell anyone how I was the master of full season stats like 23 home runs with 28 RBI's.

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Originally posted by: MoneyLA

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Originally posted by: FrankKneeland

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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Arc for the umpteeth time Singer does not dispute the math. His plays are nothing more than taking a shot at getting something better than what the math calls for.

This is why this whole debate about Singer is nonsense.

There is nothing to debate. There is nothing to discuss. As I said before he is like the craps bettor who bets the horn. He says he got lucky betting his way.

He also says he quits playing when he reaches a win goal.

He also says he follows the math 95 percent of the time.

You know what's amazing? People have been making a big stink over NOTHING.

Tell me Arc would you make a similar stink over a craps player who bets the horn and gets lucky?

Singer wins because he is a good money manager AND he knows when to leave. The special plys that you make a fuss over are really insignificant in the overall picture.

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Money we covered this on your forum already. Have you forgotten?

We discussed that the mathematical approach to AP allows for no personal choice whatsoever, and that the mathematical approach also implicitly states that nothing beyond the math is required, or should ever be employed under any circumstances. You don't seem to get this at all.

If one deviates from the mathematically optimal play, they are disputing the math, even if they go on to say, "I'm not disputing the math, I just want to hold these other cards."

It would be like saying, "I don't dispute anything the Bible says and follow it flawlessly, I just prefer to worship Baal and have the occasional orgy." One could actually say this and not be disputing the Bible if the Bile didn't say, "Put no other gods before me and stop having orgies!" (or at least invite me)

If you don't dispute the math you follow the math every single hand, all the time without question.

Doing otherwise is "dispute", so far as the mathematical people are concerned. It may not be by your definition, but if you want to communicate with other people, you need to start thinking about what they mean as well as what they say.

This will all be covered in the eval in more depth.

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Frank we are miscommunicating and it appears mathematicians speak a different language. No where have I found a definition for the word dispute that says if I don't dispute something then I must follow it

An example is I don't dispute the laws about stop signs yet instead of a full stop I might do a rolling stop.

I disputed the draft and the Vietnam war yet I carried my draft card and when told to report for the 6am bus ride to the White Hall Street induction station I did

I guess only mathematicians believe that if you don't dispute something you must do it and if you do dispute something you can't do it.

More detail on my forum.

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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Frank I'm afraid we can't discuss RS until we decide what language to use. Isn't that something like you said on my forum? Miscommunication?

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Originally posted by: arcimedes

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Originally posted by: FrankKneeland

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Originally posted by: jatki99
I have no why idea why i'm chiming in here, but i have to ask you arc,why do you really give a shit about this? It has absolutely no bearing on you,does it? You've stated the math point ad nauseum,why do you persist?

J

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Arci persists because the only thing more annoying than having somebody disagree with you, is having them say that they agree and then prove otherwise. It's the VP equivalent of beating your child while telling them it's because you love them, and if you didn't care you wouldn't beat them. I would be surprised if this sort of thing didn't bug Arci to high heaven.

I don't agree with how serious he seems to take it, but I certainly sympathize. I can feel his pain, though for me it's more of a dull ache and easily treated. I just posted a comment on this "don't dispute the math issue". I cover it in the RS eval. I will make no attempts to continue fielding fly balls into the 107 inning.

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Arc doesn't take any of this seriously. As I've said many times, I just state the facts. The rest of it is all entertainment.

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Originally posted by: FrankKneeland
You have said it many times, and Yes Arc, people might have believed you the first couple hundred times you said it.

Anyway the truth is irrelevant, I'm telling you how you are being perceived. Perception and truth are only seldom bedfellows. If you don't care how you are perceived then it's a moot point.

P.S. I was trying to defend you and offer a plausible explanation for your seeming obsession with Rob related topics and you contradicted and refuted me. Guess that's pretty funny.

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