Nearing Completion of Evaluation of RS system (not)

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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
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Originally posted by: FrankKneeland
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Frank I'm afraid we can't discuss RS until we decide what language to use. Isn't that something like you said on my forum? Miscommunication?


Yes I thought we just had. You understand now that if Rob doesn't exactly follow the mathematical approach, mathematicians consider that to be disputing the math.

Therefore when you say, "Rob doesn't dispute the math", everyone jumps down your throat and calls you a lier.

Instead of: "Rob doesn't dispute the math".

Try this: "Rob chooses not to follow the mathematically optimal strategy because he believes more than math is required to gain an edge in video poker. He doesn't dispute the equations themselves, only their application. He admits 2+2 = 4 he just doesn't think it applies to this situation."

If you use this alternate version, you're essentially saying the same thing more accurately and you'll get far less abuse.


Well Frank I think I said that all along and you correctly summed up Rob's strategy as well when you said he doesn't think the math play applies to every situation.

I gave the analogy about craps: if you played by the math you would only bet the pass or don't pass--- period. Every other bet does not apply to the math of the game.

So I guess that every craps player who ever bet the field or the horn or placed th 4 is a madman like RS?

This whole thing was just a silly waste and put everybody in a tizzy.

If any of the math guys ever believed in the math they'd never set foot in a casino.

More importantly how was the big date and what about a wedding?


My weekend with Jess was amazing, wonderful, magical, and then it ended, with me alone in the dark crying with an empty hole where my heart had been. Nothing was resolved either to the positive or the negative and I'm left with more questions and doubts than I had before her trip, which was supposed to be about resolving our questions. Bout like you'd expect I suppose.

Thank you for asking. Ain't love grand.

Sure wish I had some equations for this one.

Oh and on whatever else you said, sure, whatever and I agree. I'm too shagged out to comment.

~FK

P.S. She's a physical therapist for handicapped children, but many years my junior.
Don't apply math concepts to women. That strategy is sure to fail.
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
If any of the math guys ever believed in the math they'd never set foot in a casino.



Once again showing how little you understand math even after it has been explained to you many times.

It's pretty much the same mental gymnastics that take place in political discussions. You don't listen to anything you are told because you have already made up your mind. You simply won't let facts displace your desires.

Frank no resolution is not a loss.

Also remember:

Better to have loved and lost than to have married and divorced.

Men get better looking with age.

Men have a long term solution: they can become sugar daddies and get sugar babes.





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Originally posted by: FrankKneeland
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
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Originally posted by: FrankKneeland
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Frank I'm afraid we can't discuss RS until we decide what language to use. Isn't that something like you said on my forum? Miscommunication?


Yes I thought we just had. You understand now that if Rob doesn't exactly follow the mathematical approach, mathematicians consider that to be disputing the math.

Therefore when you say, "Rob doesn't dispute the math", everyone jumps down your throat and calls you a lier.

Instead of: "Rob doesn't dispute the math".

Try this: "Rob chooses not to follow the mathematically optimal strategy because he believes more than math is required to gain an edge in video poker. He doesn't dispute the equations themselves, only their application. He admits 2+2 = 4 he just doesn't think it applies to this situation."

If you use this alternate version, you're essentially saying the same thing more accurately and you'll get far less abuse.


Well Frank I think I said that all along and you correctly summed up Rob's strategy as well when you said he doesn't think the math play applies to every situation.

I gave the analogy about craps: if you played by the math you would only bet the pass or don't pass--- period. Every other bet does not apply to the math of the game.

So I guess that every craps player who ever bet the field or the horn or placed th 4 is a madman like RS?

This whole thing was just a silly waste and put everybody in a tizzy.

If any of the math guys ever believed in the math they'd never set foot in a casino.

More importantly how was the big date and what about a wedding?


My weekend with Jess was amazing, wonderful, magical, and then it ended, with me alone in the dark crying with an empty hole where my heart had been. Nothing was resolved either to the positive or the negative and I'm left with more questions and doubts than I had before her trip, which was supposed to be about resolving our questions. Bout like you'd expect I suppose.

Thank you for asking. Ain't love grand.

Sure wish I had some equations for this one.

Oh and on whatever else you said, sure, whatever and I agree. I'm too shagged out to comment.

~FK

P.S. She's a physical therapist for handicapped children, but many years my junior.


Whatever you do please don't take dating advise from Bagiant!

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Originally posted by: FrankKneeland
My weekend with Jess was amazing, wonderful, magical, and then it ended, with me alone in the dark crying with an empty hole where my heart had been.
Perhaps the counsel of DonDiego's Grandfather can soothe the torment: "Women are like streetcars. If you miss one, there'll be another one coming along in 5 minutes."

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Originally posted by: DonDiego: Perhaps the counsel of DonDiego's Grandfather can soothe the torment: "Women are like streetcars. If you miss one, there'll be another one coming along in 5 minutes."


As usual there is some truth in what you say. Yet I find it has little efficacy in my life. In just the last year I have stood up a playboy playmate, because I simply forgot I had a date with her. I got a ride home (rather than driving her) for an old friend when she shared that since I had last seen her she was now a nude fetish model. I feigned a headache when invited in by a lonely beautiful Filipino divorcée. And just recently, excused myself from a party/date when my companion boldly stated that she ran an escort service with 48 girls, but that none of them were as free spirited as her and that I better prepare to have my world rocked.

Hot news flash: I do not wish to have my world rocked, I prefer my world orbiting the sun in a predictable ellipse. True this policy has kept me at Aphelion and far from warmth for a while now.

Sure there are more streetcars. And of these "more streetcars" some of them have: graffiti on the outside, bullet holes, broken windows, graffiti on the inside, squeaky wheels, rust, puke under the seats, no driver, puke on the seats, too many drivers, a decommissioned sign, faulty lights, a recommissioned sign, functional lights—but nothing else that works, one creepy guy siting in the back in a trench coat, graffiti on the other graffiti, standing room only, uneaten food left out to rot, sitting room only, hand holds that break off when you try to use them, no sitting or standing—just room, or require a Rod Serling monologue for boarding and are actually "named Desire", etc... and most importantly—almost none of them stop at my destination.

My streetcar schedule runs a little less often than every 5 minutes. I'm putting it right around once every 12 years. It's true that there will always be another one coming, of course if I miss one too many it won't be the streetcar picking me up. It will be a hearse.

Some of the pics are on my facebook page.

Anyway thanks for trying to cheer me up. I wish it were true for me.
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
I gave the analogy about craps: if you played by the math you would only bet the pass or don't pass--- period. Every other bet does not apply to the math of the game.


If you played by the math you would not play craps.

I know you want to understand the math, but you don't, and that's OK. Can you tell me how many CCs of anesthetic is needed to put a 180lb male under for a 90 minute surgical procedure? No? That's OK, too. You weren't trained to have that knowledge any more than you've been trained in math and probability.
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Originally posted by: FrankKneeland
And of these "more streetcars" some of them have: graffiti on the outside, bullet holes, broken windows, graffiti on the inside, squeaky wheels, rust, puke under the seats, no driver...


I see you have been reading the threads about Bags and Shar.
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Originally posted by: KayPea
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Originally posted by: FrankKneeland
And of these "more streetcars" some of them have: graffiti on the outside, bullet holes, broken windows, graffiti on the inside, squeaky wheels, rust, puke under the seats, no driver...


I see you have been reading the threads about Bags and Shar.


No, I have no idea what you are talking about. I thought "Shar" was a name for a tool. And I have never heard of "bags" being anything other than something you carry things in.
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