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snidely333
snidely333
Nov 28, 2011
9:08am
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
The lucky draws are his special plays. Undefined when to use them.


I use my lucky plays when I feel a hunch it will work. It's all instinct.
Don
Don
Nov 28, 2011
9:29am
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Originally posted by: snidely333
I use my lucky plays when I feel a hunch it will work. It's all instinct.
DonDiego does exactly the same thing; he uses his lucky plays when snidely333 feels a hunch.
DonDiego does not feel anyone's hunch unless he is explicitly invited.

arcimedes
arcimedes
Nov 28, 2011
9:35am
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
The lucky draws are his special plays. Undefined when to use them.


I believe Singer claims it is defined. The problem is they really are just a haphazard group of plays that could lead to a win but rarely do. There are literally thousands of potential special plays that Singer doesn't use. Those plays could also lead to a win, but rarely do. There is no criteria for his special plays other than they can produce a big win. Holding a single 4 might produce a big win but I doubt he would trhow a 4 to a flush and hold just a 4. I could be wrong.

In my analysis of several of Singer's special plays I demonstrated they lead to fewer winning sessions than the optimal play would. The special plays really are completely bogus and anyone who looks at them closely (and understand math) can see they are simply part of a CON. The reason I call them the magic elixir is because that's their purpose. They provide a mechanism to fool gullible people like Money. And, we can all see it works quite well.

Frank, I've mentioned N0 before in discussions with Money. He never did understand what it meant. However, I think it's as good as any other definition, probably better.

FrankKneeland
FrankKneeland
Nov 28, 2011
10:00am
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Originally posted by: arcimedes
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
The lucky draws are his special plays. Undefined when to use them.


I believe Singer claims it is defined. The problem is they really are just a haphazard group of plays that could lead to a win but rarely do. There are literally thousands of potential special plays that Singer doesn't use. Those plays could also lead to a win, but rarely do. There is no criteria for his special plays other than they can produce a big win. Holding a single 4 might produce a big win but I doubt he would trhow a 4 to a flush and hold just a 4. I could be wrong.

In my analysis of several of Singer's special plays I demonstrated they lead to fewer winning sessions than the optimal play would. The special plays really are completely bogus and anyone who looks at them closely (and understand math) can see they are simply part of a CON. The reason I call them the magic elixir is because that's their purpose. They provide a mechanism to fool gullible people like Money. And, we can all see it works quite well.

Frank, I've mentioned N0 before in discussions with Money. He never did understand what it meant. However, I think it's as good as any other definition, probably better.


Yea I like it. I'm a NO man.

What is a bigger problem than people who don't understand math, is people that don't understand math but think they do or have convinced themselves that it is unimportant. You'd think that if people were incapable of simple probability equations, they would at least accept that they weren't good in this area and differ to someone that was. I'm getting no deference at all ever, it's odd.

What I'm finding is the opposite: no I can't do this, but no one needs to anyway.

Perhaps this is related to the Aesop fable of the fox and the sour grapes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes

~FK

MoneyLA
MoneyLA
Nov 28, 2011
10:18am
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Arc Singer has made it clear on my forum that if he is ahead playing the conventional strategy there is no need to make a special play.

And doesn't that link for "Progressions" refer to even money bets and not video poker? It says in the first sentence: "even payoffs" and that would apply to games such as roulette and craps with black/red, pass/dont pass, etc.
snidely333
snidely333
Nov 28, 2011
10:34am
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Arc Singer has made it clear on my forum that if he is ahead playing the conventional strategy there is no need to make a special play.

And doesn't that link for "Progressions" refer to even money bets and not video poker? It says in the first sentence: "even payoffs" and that would apply to games such as roulette and craps with black/red, pass/dont pass, etc.


Perhaps you should read the second sentence. I assume you didn't make that far.
MoneyLA
MoneyLA
Nov 28, 2011
10:42am
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The first statement alone discredited the entire statement.

Again Singer plays predominantly conventional video poker. Only the rumors say otherwise.

Edited to add: correction. My comment regarding the link was a question. My comment here regards to Singer's actual play which is not as off-base as is allegged.
arcimedes
arcimedes
Nov 28, 2011
7:45pm
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Arc Singer has made it clear on my forum that if he is ahead playing the conventional strategy there is no need to make a special play.

And doesn't that link for "Progressions" refer to even money bets and not video poker? It says in the first sentence: "even payoffs" and that would apply to games such as roulette and craps with black/red, pass/dont pass, etc.


So, now you think you are the math guru. Your desire to make Singer's CON look reasonable knows no bounds. Here's the 2nd sentence mentioned by snidely.

"This article expands on Wilson's Proof and provides the proof that progression systems cannot overcome a negative expectation even if the game provides uneven payoffs. "

Do you understand what "uneven payoffs" means? This proof is specifically for games like VP.

Good grief.

KayPea
KayPea
Nov 28, 2011
11:45pm
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Originally posted by: arcimedes
Your desire to make Singer's CON look reasonable knows no bounds.


Give him a break. Can you imagine how hard it is to be Singer's spokesman and publicist? And how frustrating to be giving away for free what you normally change thousands of dollars to others?
Don
Don
Nov 29, 2011
12:03am
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Originally posted by: KayPea
Give him a break. Can you imagine how hard it is to be Singer's spokesman and publicist? And how frustrating to be giving away for free what you normally change thousands of dollars to others?
Wait a minute ! ! !

Umm, . . . DonDiego would only charge hundreds-of-dollars to tell anyone everything he knows about anything at all.

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