Nearing Completion of Evaluation of RS system (not)

Singer System = bankroll + luck + money management + playing best available paytables. (Ten words?)

Funny: sounds like a lot like what other gaming authors also say. The ONLY difference is that Rob actually pointed out "special plays" for his stabs at luck. And that's what you guys made a big deal over. Oh and the comments about rigged machines-- that was another big deal but even Rob plays the same machines too.


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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
And that's what you guys made a big deal over. Oh and the comments about rigged machines-- that was another big deal but even Rob plays the same machines too.
For the Record: DonDiego has not made a big deal about anything within this thread.
He asked some questions.
He got some answers and references to web-sites with additional information.
He observed that i.he doesn't understand how "special plays" improve one's expected return and ii.he is unlikely to obtain definitive instructions for implementing the system.
He already had lots of knowledge concerning probablility/statistics/game evaluation/etc.
He concluded the "system" is not for him.
No BIG DEAL HERE.




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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Singer System = bankroll + luck + money management + playing best available paytables. (Ten words?)

Funny: sounds like a lot like what other gaming authors also say. The ONLY difference is that Rob actually pointed out "special plays" for his stabs at luck. And that's what you guys made a big deal over. Oh and the comments about rigged machines-- that was another big deal but even Rob plays the same machines too.


Most of Singer's special plays are not "stabs at luck". They reduce the chances that luck will lead to a win. The fact you keep making this statement after I have shown you repeated examples otherwise is cause for concern about your sanity.

Oh yeah, Singer has stated many times that pay tables do not matter and that he doesn't care about them. So, you are either misquoting what he has said or Singer lied to you.

Money management has nothing to do with his success. He either gets lucky or he doesn't. That is a simple math and your continued ignorance only makes you look foolish.

So, it gets down to bankroll and being luckier than 99.97% of those would try this approach ..... or, it's a lie. If we put this to a group of top tier gamblers, which do you think they would bet on?

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Originally posted by: arcimedes
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Singer System = bankroll + luck + money management + playing best available paytables. (Ten words?)

Funny: sounds like a lot like what other gaming authors also say. The ONLY difference is that Rob actually pointed out "special plays" for his stabs at luck. And that's what you guys made a big deal over. Oh and the comments about rigged machines-- that was another big deal but even Rob plays the same machines too.


Most of Singer's special plays are not "stabs at luck". They reduce the chances that luck will lead to a win. The fact you keep making this statement after I have shown you repeated examples otherwise is cause for concern about your sanity.

Oh yeah, Singer has stated many times that pay tables do not matter and that he doesn't care about them. So, you are either misquoting what he has said or Singer lied to you.

Money management has nothing to do with his success. He either gets lucky or he doesn't. That is a simple math and your continued ignorance only makes you look foolish.

So, it gets down to bankroll and being luckier than 99.97% of those would try this approach ..... or, it's a lie. If we put this to a group of top tier gamblers, which do you think they would bet on?



Arcimedes, this discussion is not getting anywhere. Why don't you just show MoneyLA that you have won more than the $1 million Rob Singer has with optimal play VP and end this now?

We talked up all night and came to no conclusion
We started a fight that ended in silent confusion
And as we sat stuck you could hear the trash truck
Making its way through the neighborhood
Picking up the thrown out different from house to house
We get to decide what we think is no good
We're sculpted from youth, the chipping away makes me weary
And as for the truth it seems like we just pick a theory
The one that justifies our daily lives
And backs us with quiver and arrows
To protect openings cause when the warring begins
How quickly the wide open narrows

Into the smallness of our deconstruction of love
We thought it was changing, but it never was
It's just the same as it ever was

A family of foxes came to my yard and dug in
I looked in a book to see what this could possibly mean
Cause there is fate in the breeze and signs in the trees
Possible tragic events
When forces collide with the damage strewn wide
And holes blasted straight through the fence
The sky starts to crash the rain on the roof starts to drumming
And laid out like cash your take on my list of shortcomings
The show starts to close, I know how this goes
The plot a predictable showing
And though it seems grand it's just one speck of sand
And back to the hourglass we're going

Back to the smallness of our deconstruction of love
We thought it was changing, but it never was
Our deconstruction of love

~Indigo Girls » Deconstruction

Just a nice lyric I wanted to share, nothing to do with anything going on here.
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Originally posted by: FrankKneeland

A family of foxes came to my yard and dug in
I looked in a book to see what this could possibly mean
Apparently the Indigo Girls didn't have internet access.
"seeing"' several foxes together means bad luck.
Ref: Old Superstitions
Perhaps I should have posted this instead?

I'm trying to tell you something about my life
Maybe give me insight between black and white
The best thing you've ever done for me
Is to help me take my life less seriously, it's only life after all
Well darkness has a hunger that's insatiable
And lightness has a call that's hard to hear
I wrap my fear around me like a blanket
I sailed my ship of safety till I sank it, I'm crawling on your shore.

I went to see the doctor of philosophy
With a poster of Rasputin and a beard down to his knee
He never did marry or see a B-grade movie
He graded my performance, he said he could see through me
I spent four years prostrate to the higher mind, got my paper
And I was free.

I stopped by the bar at 3 a.m.
To seek solace in a bottle or possibly a friend
I woke up with a headache like my head against a board
Twice as cloudy as I'd been the night before
I went in seeking clarity.

I went to the doctor, I went to the mountains
I looked to the children, I drank from the fountain
We go to the bible, we go through the workout
We read up on revival and we stand up for the lookout
There's more than one answer to these questions
pointing me in a crooked line
The less I seek my source for some definitive
The closer I am to fine

~Indigo Girls » Closer to Fine
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Originally posted by: FrankKneeland
Perhaps I should have posted this instead?
Umm, . . . not for poor old DonDiego's sake. This one makes less sense than Edward Lear or Lewis Carroll. DonDiego is more attuned to reality, . . . if ever-so slightly.

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Originally posted by: a2a3dseddie
Arcimedes, this discussion is not getting anywhere. Why don't you just show MoneyLA that you have won more than the $1 million Rob Singer has with optimal play VP and end this now?


First of all it wouldn't prove a thing. Even if I were a million ahead that doesn't mean others couldn't have won millions.

Also, I wouldn't lie about it. Most of my VP career has been playing quarters. Not going to make a million too fast that way. However, I am making progress and playing dollars these days, so one day I may be able to make that claim.

Ok, you were just being funny, but it does make one wonder whether it would affect Money's opinion simply if I claimed I was $2 million ahead.



Arc, I hope you are two million dollars ahead. I'm sure Singer isn't the only one in the world who has won and is ahead playing video poker.
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