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Nearing Completion of Evaluation of RS system (not)

Don
Don
Dec 4, 2011
9:46am
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If DonDiego were to write a book, he would have a lengthy, . . . correction, a very lengthy, . . . disclaimer expounding upon the fact that poor old DonDiego is not responsible morally or legally for:
i.any actions taken based upon anything in the book whether interpreted correctly or incorrectly.
ii.any impure thoughts introduced into the readers' minds intentionally or accidentally.
iii.anything actually in the book or elsewhere.
KayPea
KayPea
Dec 4, 2011
9:48am
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I'm not so much looking to address liability and responsibility for information as much as I'm looking to discuss different systems. You make a valid point in that you catch a lot of grief here for supporting Singer's system on your website, but nobody talks about Dancer's system that you also have on your website.

I'm saying let's present Dancer's system and pick it apart like we do Singer's system. Fair is fair. If you want, I'll present my stupid little system and we can pick it to shreads, too.

But like we gloss over Singer's use of basic strategy 95% of the time, I say we should also gloss over the basic strategy of any system since that part will always be the same and it is not really the invention of the system's author. Let's look at the unique aspects of the different systems like session goals, win limits, betting progressions, cash back, free drinks, etc. These are what makes the systems different from one another and make them interesting.

So what does Dancer present in his system that is unique to him?
KayPea
KayPea
Dec 4, 2011
9:55am
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Originally posted by: DonDiego

ii.any impure thoughts introduced into the readers' minds intentionally or accidentally.


The cute pictures of the two pussies in your signature are giving me impure thoughts. Or, at least, I sense based upon the tongue action, the pussy in the back, groping the other pussy, is having impure thoughts.
Don
Don
Dec 4, 2011
10:28am
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Originally posted by: KayPea
The cute pictures of the two pussies in your signature are giving me impure thoughts. Or, at least, I sense based upon the tongue action, the pussy in the back, groping the other pussy, is having impure thoughts.
The "pussies" are named Frank and Sammy. DonDiego certainly hopes there's no deep kissing or groping going on.

: : : : : EDITED TO ADD : : : : :

. . . not that there's anything wrong with that.


arcimedes
arcimedes
Dec 4, 2011
11:16am
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Lurker that's a good idea. Arc from now on please discuss Singer only on my Forum.


Tried that already. You didn't listen to a word I said. You ignored every fact I presented. You wouldn't even look at references where Singer made comments that were 180° opposite of what he told you.

Now, please explain why should I go back?

arcimedes
arcimedes
Dec 4, 2011
11:21am
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Gee arc I've been playing video poker for years following Bob Dancer's strategy. I've used his software and attended a lecture in Vegas and I read his website. I used his trainers. Yet I've lost thousands of dollars and never had a winning year playing VP. Do you think I can sue Dancer? Is Dancer liable for my losses?

Help me out here Arc. My legal team might need you as an expert witness.


Once again, it is not "Dancer's strategy". It is optimal play which is a mathematical approach that Dancer recommends. However, it takes more to win than playing optimally.

So, when did Dancer ever tell you that you could win playing negative return games? In fact, I'd almost bet he mentioned the only way to win was to play positive games.

I suggest you avoid the legal expenses as well as making a fool out of yourself.

arcimedes
arcimedes
Dec 4, 2011
11:28am
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Kaypea you are being antagonistic and argumentative but I will play along with you.

If Arcimedes allegation of liability holds water than LVA also shares liability for my losses from following Dancer's advice for video poker for "winners" and I've won nothing. I don't know where Dancer got his info from but I bought Dancers info. Doesn't Dancer have responsibility for his advice "for winners"?

If Arc is going to find liability with Singer I can allege liability for the same reasoning against Dancer, LVA, and every other gambling author and publication that even hinted that you could win any casino bets.

Now why don't you all grow up. Stop playing your silly games before an adult slaps you across your hineys and sends you to your room.


What's really amazing is that one would almost believe that Money thinks you should be able to win playing negative return games.

Money, there's a big difference between telling someone they are favored to win playing positive machines IF AND ONLY IF they follow optimal strategy and telling someone they can win playing negative machines with any strategy. You and Singer are doing the latter. There is no mathematician that would stand up in court and support that position.

That is why you could be liable. Now I doubt you will be sued, but it's a really stupid and immoral position you are supporting.

arcimedes
arcimedes
Dec 4, 2011
11:33am
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: KayPea
The cute pictures of the two pussies in your signature are giving me impure thoughts. Or, at least, I sense based upon the tongue action, the pussy in the back, groping the other pussy, is having impure thoughts.
The "pussies" are named Frank and Sammy. DonDiego certainly hopes there's no deep kissing or groping going on.


Never seemed to matter much to the tomcats I've seen humping anything they could pin down.

melbedewy
melbedewy
Dec 4, 2011
10:17pm
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Originally posted by: arcimedes
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Gee arc I've been playing video poker for years following Bob Dancer's strategy. I've used his software and attended a lecture in Vegas and I read his website. I used his trainers. Yet I've lost thousands of dollars and never had a winning year playing VP. Do you think I can sue Dancer? Is Dancer liable for my losses?

Help me out here Arc. My legal team might need you as an expert witness.




So, when did Dancer ever tell you that you could win playing negative return games? In fact, I'd almost bet he mentioned the only way to win was to play positive game


Actually, while Singer's system mostly uses a positive (10-6 DDB) game, Dancer's system uses nothing BUT negative games. He claims that the value of drawings, welfare checks, cruise discounts, logo jackets, 6 packs, gas cards and the like puts his system over the top. Theoretically. Assuming (LOL) perfect play. Over the "long term".
While I knew a number of legitimate VP pro's in prior decades and was invited many times to relocate and join profitable teams, to maintain that it is possible to live off the game as it exists in 2012 and beyond is a disingenuous and cruel hoax perpetuated by those who profit from peddling books, lessons, software, strategy cards, etc.
arcimedes
arcimedes
Dec 4, 2011
11:41pm
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Originally posted by: melbedewy
Actually, while Singer's system mostly uses a positive (10-6 DDB) game, Dancer's system uses nothing BUT negative games. He claims that the value of drawings, welfare checks, cruise discounts, logo jackets, 6 packs, gas cards and the like puts his system over the top. Theoretically. Assuming (LOL) perfect play. Over the "long term".[/q[

Too bad you choose not to deal in facts. I believe Singer recently stated his preference for TDB and SDB variations. Both negative. And, we also know he plays 8/5 BP at every level which is also negative. Singer has longed claimed that he doesn't care about those extra value items. Dancer does factor them into the equation for whether a game is positive or negative.

Do you use a player's card? Do you collect the CB and receive freeplay? If so, why?

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Originally posted by: melbedewy
While I knew a number of legitimate VP pro's in prior decades and was invited many times to relocate and join profitable teams, to maintain that it is possible to live off the game as it exists in 2012 and beyond is a disingenuous and cruel hoax perpetuated by those who profit from peddling books, lessons, software, strategy cards, etc.


We've been through this before. Just because you can't do simple addition does not stop those making money by gambling. Are you claiming Frank is a liar?



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