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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Jefferson Davis could not have said it any better. The US Federal Government can pass any law it chooses so long as it does not violate the Constituion. If the south actually won the Civil War your premise would be correct and we would not have things like Medicare and Social Security...or even a national currency... but we do because, much to Senator Jim DeMint's displeasure, the north won the Civil War.
Oh dear, you *are* that clueless.
No, the Feds CAN NOT pass 'just any law'. You should get to know The 10th.
Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: shlomoQuote
Originally posted by: pjstroh
Are you referring to the US Constituion or the one that belonged to the Confederacy? State laws do not trump Federal laws in our book. If Massachusetts can demand people buy into a healthcare system so can the Federal government.
Wow, I really hope you aren't this stupid, and are only whooshing me.....
It's not a matter of which law trumps which, state vs federal. Massachusetts can do it because there's nothing stopping them from doing it, so to speak (unless something is in their own state constitution - I have no idea but I doubt it, since the law was implemented).
The federal government NEEDS TO HAVE SPECIFIC AUTHORITY to do something, granted by the Constitution. They can't just pass a law because they think it's a neat idea, or even if it makes perfect sense and the country would benefit.
Seriously, you and the other lefties on this board would greatly benefit from reading the actual constitution, especially the 10th Amendment. There is nothing in the constitution that gives the Federal Government the right to mandate commerce, interstate or otherwise. They only get to regulate commerce: and your assumption that regulation = compelling is a completely novel reading, and if upheld would completely eradicate any restraint on federal powers. That's something the framers would have hated, certainly.
The 10th Amendment says, basically, that if it's not in here, the Feds can't do it - the States make the call.
Which is why the Romneycare bill is legit, Obamacare ain't. Oh well, at least it resulted in giving the Democrats a complete assreaming, with another one to come, thanks to Pelosi/Obama/Reid shoving it down the public's throats.
Jefferson Davis could not have said it any better. The US Federal Government can pass any law it chooses so long as it does not violate the Constituion. If the south actually won the Civil War your premise would be correct and we would not have things like Medicare and Social Security...or even a national currency... but we do because, much to Senator Jim DeMint's displeasure, the north won the Civil War.
Oh dear, you *are* that clueless.
No, the Feds CAN NOT pass 'just any law'. You should get to know The 10th.
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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
This means that, unless the Constitution specifically grants the Feds a power, Congress cannot seize/act upon that power. This is a source of great misery to lefties, who look for an ever-growing Federal presence in the lives of Americans, I understand.
Nowhere does the Constitution say that the Federal Government is allowed to force citizens to engage in commerce. NOWHERE. Get this through your lefty head, please, you'll save yourself some embarrassment next time you talk about the issue. Or just pipe down about the subject and let the adults talk, either way.
No offense.
