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Originally posted by: shlomo
Why should I have to pay for my own healthcare? Let Congress use their money! (oh wait...)
as for the list of goodies posted and the timelines, I think Krauthammer put it best when he said
That is why people are against this monstrosity.
Yes, it's supposedly paid for and reduces the deficit (not really: they used 10 yrs of taxes to offset 6 yrs of benefits - how would you bank account look if you calculated 10 yrs of income vs 6 yrs of expenses). But even if that weren't the case, it doesn't matter: we are broke, as a country. We ought to be using those savings and taxes to reduce the deficit and debt, instead of passing it on to our kids on the national credit card. Shame on this generation, I guess they hate America...
Or to put it another way, one that everyone should be able to understand: if a family deeply in credit card debt suddenly finds $5k lying in their driveway, should they use it to pay down that debt, or take a vacation to Europe? We know which way this administration would go, I guess.
Originally posted by: shlomo
Why should I have to pay for my own healthcare? Let Congress use their money! (oh wait...)
as for the list of goodies posted and the timelines, I think Krauthammer put it best when he said
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Obama was reduced to suggesting that his health-care reform was indeed popular because when you ask people about individual items (for example, eliminating exclusions for preexisting conditions or capping individual out-of-pocket payments), they are in favor.
Yet mystifyingly they oppose the whole package. How can that be?
Allow me to demystify. Imagine a bill granting every American a free federally delivered ice cream every Sunday morning. Provision 2: steak on Monday, also home delivered. Provision 3: a dozen red roses every Tuesday. You get the idea. Would each individual provision be popular in the polls? Of course.
However (life is a vale of howevers) suppose these provisions were bundled into a bill that also spelled out how the goodies are to be paid for and managed -- say, half a trillion dollars in new taxes, half a trillion in Medicare cuts (cuts not to keep Medicare solvent but to pay for the ice cream, steak and flowers), 118 new boards and commissions to administer the bounty-giving, and government regulation dictating, for example, how your steak is to be cooked. How do you think this would poll?
Perhaps something like 3 to 1 against, which is what the latest CNN poll shows is the citizenry's feeling about the current Democratic health-care bills.
That is why people are against this monstrosity.
Yes, it's supposedly paid for and reduces the deficit (not really: they used 10 yrs of taxes to offset 6 yrs of benefits - how would you bank account look if you calculated 10 yrs of income vs 6 yrs of expenses). But even if that weren't the case, it doesn't matter: we are broke, as a country. We ought to be using those savings and taxes to reduce the deficit and debt, instead of passing it on to our kids on the national credit card. Shame on this generation, I guess they hate America...
Or to put it another way, one that everyone should be able to understand: if a family deeply in credit card debt suddenly finds $5k lying in their driveway, should they use it to pay down that debt, or take a vacation to Europe? We know which way this administration would go, I guess.
So practice what you preach and show me the individual line items of the bill that you object to. Many people truly do object to the bill in its entirety becasue Republicans and the Insurance comapnies spent a year telling people about the ficticious death panels and socilaized medicine that are in it. 50% of the AMerican people are also unsure the American President was born in this country. Thank you FOX News.
The facts are there for anyone who is interested in seeing them...so tell me what you object to.
And show me the math that refutes the bi-partisan CBO's financial assessment of the new healthcare law over the system that came before it. The only people who say the old system was better for the deficit are the same ones who said the Iraq War would be paid for with oil revenues...and they admitedly have not scored the bill independantly (in other words - they are making it up)
