NOAA lies about supposed climate change

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Originally posted by: krajewski.sa
Just curious why you girls are arguing about this. Why not just go to:

https://nas-sites.org/americasclimatechoices/

The National Academy of Science is pretty respected.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Academy_of_Sciences

These are the smartest men and women on the planet. You can get your science at church or on fox news if you prefer, but I wouldn't advise it. Everything else is non-sense, politics and noise making. Why waste your lives sniping at each other when you could get smarter by simply reading an authoritative source?


Because your source comes from uninformed scientists instead of omniscient bloggers. Get with the program.
They didn't tamper with data, but instead knowingly utilized unreliable data over reliable data. This isn't tampering, but instead it's "cherry picking". It's certainly not science.



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Originally posted by: pjstroh
From my link....
The result, he wrote, “strongly suggests that NOAA got it right and that we have been underestimating ocean warming in recent years.”

“The issue here is not an issue of tampering with data,” he said, “but rather really of timing of a release of a paper that had not properly disclosed everything it was.”


So what Climate Change data is the NOAA lying about (the claim you made in your original post)? Your own witness thinks your claim is bogus. have an alternative-fact free day!


Power line is in the top 6,000 blogs, according to Alexander. How much more cred does one need?
Krajewski misses the point. The entire discussion centers around who are the reliable, unbiased sources. PJ argues that NOAA, for example, is a reliable and definitive source. On the other hand, I argue that NOAA, and most of these organizations that you mention, have great monetary motivations to lie about their results. No warming equals no funding equals no job. In addition, what about the concept of losing face after making shit up for years?

Either way, Ski, you fully missed the point of the discussion.


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Originally posted by: krajewski.sa
Just curious why you girls are arguing about this. Why not just go to:

https://nas-sites.org/americasclimatechoices/

The National Academy of Science is pretty respected.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Academy_of_Sciences

These are the smartest men and women on the planet. You can get your science at church or on fox news if you prefer, but I wouldn't advise it. Everything else is non-sense, politics and noise making. Why waste your lives sniping at each other when you could get smarter by simply reading an authoritative source?



Oh, I don't think Ski missed anything.
That's because Snidely misses the point. Besides, it'd be best if you let others do the thinking.


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Originally posted by: snidely333
Oh, I don't think Ski missed anything.


What boils doesn't understand is NOAA is a front for the NSA and their fleet is made up mostly of spy ships that use scientific research as a cover.
They don't have budget concerns.
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Originally posted by: IndyBoilerman
That's because Snidely misses the point. Besides, it'd be best if you let others do the thinking.


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Originally posted by: snidely333
Oh, I don't think Ski missed anything.



I didn't miss the point.

You're not doing any thinking. You're just parroting things others have written that you agree with politically and trying to pass that off as scientific thinking. You're attacking the NOAA's scientific neutrality because their conclusions don't match your politics.

And now you've found some blog that states what you want to think and say more eloquently than you can.

Thanks, Archie.

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Originally posted by: IndyBoilerman
Besides, it'd be best if you let others do the thinking.


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Originally posted by: snidely333
Oh, I don't think Ski missed anything.



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Originally posted by: IndyBoilerman
Krajewski misses the point. The entire discussion centers around who are the reliable, unbiased sources. PJ argues that NOAA, for example, is a reliable and definitive source. On the other hand, I argue that NOAA, and most of these organizations that you mention, have great monetary motivations to lie about their results. No warming equals no funding equals no job. In addition, what about the concept of losing face after making shit up for years?

Either way, Ski, you fully missed the point of the discussion.


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Originally posted by: krajewski.sa
Just curious why you girls are arguing about this. Why not just go to:

https://nas-sites.org/americasclimatechoices/

The National Academy of Science is pretty respected.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Academy_of_Sciences

These are the smartest men and women on the planet. You can get your science at church or on fox news if you prefer, but I wouldn't advise it. Everything else is non-sense, politics and noise making. Why waste your lives sniping at each other when you could get smarter by simply reading an authoritative source?



Boilerman has gone from misrepresenting an NOAA scientist to now just inventing an alternate universe. The NOAA has been around since Richard Nixon....long before any consensus or real study of Global warming. They are part of the deptarment of Commerce and have served under president's from both parties - including ones that are not favorable to their conclusions.

They get paid regardless. But Boilerman is trying to say their funding depends on their findings? That's pure, fabricated bullshit. And it also presumes the scientists from the rest of the world community are part of the same conspiracy.


It's true there a lot of people who make shit up. You'll find a higher ratio of those types on this site than in the NOAA. Have a great day
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