The Obama Internet

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Originally posted by: hoops2
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: hoops2
Remember when he promised the most transparent administration in history. Another obma lie
Other presidential administrations have been more transparent? Name one.


He campaigned on being the most transparent admiinistration ever & it isn't.
Okay, I'll bite (again). Name one administration that was more transparent.

I will admit to not have payed attention until the Carter years, and I'm certain that Carter, George W, and ever president in-between were far more transparent the Obama.

Including Nixon, Obama is by far most crooked.


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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: hoops2
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: hoops2
Remember when he promised the most transparent administration in history. Another obma lie
Other presidential administrations have been more transparent? Name one.


He campaigned on being the most transparent admiinistration ever & it isn't.
Okay, I'll bite (again). Name one administration that was more transparent.


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
And "life under the thumb" of the FCC has really made the telephone business non-competitive and awful for consumers, hasn't it.

That only took an act of congress and a President who was willing to reverse a 50 year course to partly deregulate Telecoms and Airlines. PJ cites the benefits of deregulation from one side of his mouth while singing the praises of increased regulations from the other.


Not once have I ever showed concern that ISP's might be governed like a telephone company. Quite the oppossite. But guess who did show that concern? Ring a bell? (pun intended)
" And again every one of those horrible infringements on hopeless consumers was resolved without reclassifying ISP's to be ruled like telephone companies. "

You cant keep your own argument straight for more than 2 posts. One minute I'm talking to Norman - and the next minute I'm talking to mother.

I guess I cant get the time I spent posting on this thread back. Oh well - live and learn.

Right...what you did was cite the telephone industry as a competitive market. It's only somewhat competitive because of deregulation in the 1980s. Now you want to regulate a whole new industry. That's the hypocrisy. You want to move in precisely the wrong direction....well at least part of you does.

https://www.ustelecom.org/blog/new-study-projects-investment-declines-under-title-ii

"A new economic model examining the impact of shifting to Title II regulation finds that Internet service providers are likely to invest “significantly less” — up to 31.7 percent lower — putting at risk much of the large capital investment needed to meet expected increases in demand for data services, according to economists Kevin Hassett and Robert Shapiro. The percentage decline translates to a negative impact on the order of tens of billions of dollars for companies modeled in the study, with potentially greater impacts if applied to the broader industry. "

So, Let's review. More Regulation = Less Investment = Less Broadband Competition. Got it?



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Originally posted by: alanleroy

So, Let's review. More Regulation = Less Investment = Less Broadband Competition. Got it?


No, I dont get it and neither does reality. Life in AlanLeroy's utopia of unregulated ISP's:
ny times
"Three-quarters of households have the choice of only one broadband provider"

...so they cant take AlanLeroy's thoughtful advice to switch to a non-existant competitor if their primary ISP screws them over...which of course, never happens because AlanLeroy says so...oh wait, he conceded it does happen but thats ok because having your freedom infringed upon is only bad when the government does it.

A Brief History of the Internets

From the creation of the earth__World Wide Web Darkness is upon the World.

ca 1991__AlGore, The Enlightened One, invents the Internets.

1993 through 2015__The Internets thrive. Ideas big and small are exchanged worldwide. Entrepreneurs create businesses previously inconceivable. Viewership of pornography grows exponentially. Civilization advances worldwide. barriers fall; knowledge increases; communication progresses as never before. Recognition dawns as the World beholds that everything The Enlightened One had made is very good.



2015__The Obama, the Destructor, directs the Federal Communicaton Commission [FCC] to impose Government Regulation of the Internets as though the Internets were a utility.


*******[Actual Image Found On the Internets]********

? The Future ? __The FCC, always subject to the ever-growing Lobbyist Industry accelerates regulation day-by-day, year-by-year, administration-by-administration until the entrepreneurship of the Internets is crushed, until the overwhelming Federal Regulators imposes unbearable burdens upon the Internets, until the vibrancy and spirit of the Internets is wrung out, the progress of civilization ceases,. . . until even the quality of Internets pornography is diminished.

The Distant Future__The Sun grows into a red-giant engulfing the Earth; the Internet ceases to exist.
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
? The Future ? __The FCC, always subject to the ever-growing Lobbyist Industry accelerates regulation day-by-day, year-by-year, administration-by-administration until the entrepreneurship of the Internets is crushed, until the overwhelming Federal Regulators imposes unbearable burdens upon the Internets, until the vibrancy and spirit of the Internets is wrung out, the progress of civilization ceases,. . . until even the quality of Internets pornography is diminished.

The Distant Future__The Sun grows into a red-giant engulfing the Earth; the Internet ceases to exist.

Well, at least we have something to look forward to.


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
No, I dont get it and neither does reality. Life in AlanLeroy's utopia of unregulated ISP's:
ny times
"Three-quarters of households have the choice of only one broadband provider"


A complete distortion of the facts. You're defining a 'broadband provider' as bringing 25MB to the home. 4 years ago the number of homes with 25 MB service was basically 0. Now it's millions due to billions in investment. If you let them compete, in 4 more years there will be lots more ISP's in many more markets at 25 MB. How do I know....Just look what happened at lower speed broadband...

From 2013..."At download speeds of 3 megabits per second (Mbps), which is the Federal Communications Commission’s current approximate standard for basic broadband service, 98 percent of the population had a choice of at least two mobile ISPs and 88 percent had two or more fixed ISPs available to them". OMG how could this possibly happen in an unregulated market? It can't in PJ's fantasy view of capitalism. It can and did in the real world.

https://www.esa.doc.gov/sites/default/files/competition-among-us-broadband-service-providers.pdf


But unfortunately, the new rules have passed and the power grab complete.

“Today, the F.C.C. took one of the most regulatory steps in its history,” Michael Powell, president of the National Cable and Telecommunications Association and a chairman of the F.C.C. in the Bush administration, said in a statement. “The commission has breathed new life into the decayed telephone regulatory model and applied it to the most dynamic, freewheeling and innovative platform in history.”


A giant step backward in my opinion. All hail the new Internet Overlord FCC.

For those of you that don't share Don Diego's dystopian view of the Internet net neutrality passed today on a 3-2 vote. It is cause for celebration as for once the little guy was treated as an equal to big corporations. Verizon, AT&T, Comcast and Time Warner were defeated in their attempt to write their own regulations.
Dont worry. If any of our resident, pro-discrimination advocates feel let down they can freely send some shake-down money to their cable company. I'm sure Comcast wont reject their check. And Comcast will need it. How else can they possibly inovate without blocking access to their competitors?
FCC’s ‘Throwback Thursday’ Move Imposes 1930s Rules on the Internet

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https://publicpolicy.verizon.com/assets/docs/VZ_NR_--_2-26-15_VZ_Statement_on_Open_Internet_Order_FINAL_1.pdf
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