The Obama Internet

Silly Alan doesn't even understand the basic facts of the situation.

Providers like Verizon had made agreements over the years with the FCC to treat all web traffic equally. In exchange for these agreements these companies were awarded public spectrum that was collectively owned by the citizens of the country.

Years later the same providers looking for new revenue streams in an industry that is no longer experiencing explosive growth drafted purposed FCC rules that allowed them to discriminate against whatever type of web traffic they liked unless of course the site owners in question paid them ransom. This would have fundamentally changed the way the Internet works.

The public caught wind of this and protested. The FCC commissioner withdrew the industry supported rules (that he was on record of supporting) and then the industry resubmitted the rules and instead of using terms like throttling and slowing called it "fast lanes." This didn't fool anybody and the purposed rules (supported by the FCC commissioner again) got more negative comments than any purposed rule in FCC history. The FCC passed final rules based on public comments that wouldn't allow these companies to fundamentally change the way that the Internet had worked since it went public like they wanted to.

Conservative groups cried like babies because they demanded Comcast be allowed to decide for them what they could look at on the internet.
Great Scott! Its already started ! The thuggish FCC is already throwing its weight around only hours after they took over the internet....and consumers everywhere will soon be burdened with increased competition and lower prices

But there's hope for people like ALanleroy and DonDIego- opponents of net-neutrality have promised lawsuits to stop them.

FCC allows expansion of broad band that states previously outlawed

"People in small communities may get better, cheaper access to the Internet after the Federal Communications Commission ruled Thursday that city-owned broadband services can expand into areas overlooked by commercial providers.

For Richard and Brenda Thornton, the FCC decision could mean a big savings. They live less than a mile from the service area for Chattanooga's Electric Power Board, which provides one gigabit-per-second Internet speeds. The Thorntons now pay $316 for landline phone service, Internet and television from wireless hot spots that two telephone companies offered. Their current connection is a fraction of the speed the Thorntons could get for $133 a month for the same bundle from Chattanooga."
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Great Scott! Its already started ! The thuggish FCC is already throwing its weight around only hours after they took over the internet....and consumers everywhere will soon be burdened with increased competition and lower prices

But there's hope for people like ALanleroy and DonDIego- opponents of net-neutrality have promised lawsuits to stop them.

FCC allows expansion of broad band that states previously outlawed

"People in small communities may get better, cheaper access to the Internet after the Federal Communications Commission ruled Thursday that city-owned broadband services can expand into areas overlooked by commercial providers.

For Richard and Brenda Thornton, the FCC decision could mean a big savings. They live less than a mile from the service area for Chattanooga's Electric Power Board, which provides one gigabit-per-second Internet speeds. The Thorntons now pay $316 for landline phone service, Internet and television from wireless hot spots that two telephone companies offered. Their current connection is a fraction of the speed the Thorntons could get for $133 a month for the same bundle from Chattanooga."

I think those states were wrong to limit competition. If a city or a co-op or a garage band can provide a better service at a lower cost then by all means they should. Of course this has nothing to do with the reclassification of over 3000 businesses that will now be ruled like a Telco.
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Originally posted by: malibber2

Silly Alan doesn't even understand the basic facts of the situation.
The FCC passed final rules based on public comments that wouldn't allow these companies to fundamentally change the way that the Internet had worked since it went public like they wanted to.


So the Federal Government has decided to fundamentally change the way that the internet works in order to avoid fundamentally changing the way the Internet works. Silly Alan.


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Originally posted by: BobOrme
I'll ask again. HOW CAN ANYONE HERE STATE WHAT IS IN THE PLAN WHEN THE FCC WON'T REVEAL ITS CONTENTS UNTIL AFTER THEY VOTE ON IT?

ObeyMe was all for FCC regulations transparency concerning changes to the regulations when he was a Senator. What changed?

Notwithstanding these efforts, many Members of Congress argued the Commission should be even more transparent. At a September 2007 public hearing in Chicago, Senator Obama submitted a statement that he “strongly requested” the FCC “put out any changes that they intend to vote on in a new notice of proposed rulemaking.” A month later, in a letter to Chairman Martin, Senator Obama argued that both the “proposed timeline and process are irresponsible.” He specifically noted while a certain proposal “may pass the muster of a federal court, Congress and the public have the right to review any specific proposal and decide whether or not it constitutes sound policy. And the commission has the responsibility to defend any new proposal in public discourse and debate. The following month Senator Obama cosponsored bipartisan legislation to block the Commission’s vote on the rulemaking, pursuant to a 90-day comment period.

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Obummer lied... He lied about health care, he lied about Iraq, He lied about being transparent. Obama has lied from day 1 and will continue until the day he leaves office....
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: malibber2

Silly Alan doesn't even understand the basic facts of the situation.
The FCC passed final rules based on public comments that wouldn't allow these companies to fundamentally change the way that the Internet had worked since it went public like they wanted to.


So the Federal Government has decided to fundamentally change the way that the internet works in order to avoid fundamentally changing the way the Internet works. Silly Alan.


No Alan and I think you know that. The industry is the one that purposed rules to fundamentally change the way the internet works. (killing their prior agreements) All purposed Federal Regulations have a comment period. When the final rule is passed the government has to take in account comments. That is what happened here. People demanded that not only should industry friendly pro-discrimination rules not be passed, but that service providers should be treated like utilities. This is exactly how the FCC made the rule and that is how the system is supposed to work.
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Originally posted by: malibber2
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: malibber2

Silly Alan doesn't even understand the basic facts of the situation.
The FCC passed final rules based on public comments that wouldn't allow these companies to fundamentally change the way that the Internet had worked since it went public like they wanted to.


So the Federal Government has decided to fundamentally change the way that the internet works in order to avoid fundamentally changing the way the Internet works. Silly Alan.


No Alan and I think you know that. The industry is the one that purposed rules to fundamentally change the way the internet works. (killing their prior agreements) All purposed Federal Regulations have a comment period. When the final rule is passed the government has to take in account comments. That is what happened here. People demanded that not only should industry friendly pro-discrimination rules not be passed, but that service providers should be treated like utilities. This is exactly how the FCC made the rule and that is how the system is supposed to work.

Actually I think it's more like Netflix, Google, Facebook and Twitter lobbyists and PR campaign were better than Verizon, Comcast, and ATT lobbyists. That's how Washington really works you know. And you also know darned well that this policy was written and signed off on by an army of lawyers well before a single public comment...
Joe is a model citizen and Pete is a serial killer. We throw Pete in jail for murder. Malibber next argues that we're not treating each citizen equally.


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Originally posted by: malibber2
Silly Alan doesn't even understand the basic facts of the situation.

Providers like Verizon had made agreements over the years with the FCC to treat all web traffic equally. In exchange for these agreements these companies were awarded public spectrum that was collectively owned by the citizens of the country.

Years later the same providers looking for new revenue streams in an industry that is no longer experiencing explosive growth drafted purposed FCC rules that allowed them to discriminate against whatever type of web traffic they liked unless of course the site owners in question paid them ransom. This would have fundamentally changed the way the Internet works.

The public caught wind of this and protested. The FCC commissioner withdrew the industry supported rules (that he was on record of supporting) and then the industry resubmitted the rules and instead of using terms like throttling and slowing called it "fast lanes." This didn't fool anybody and the purposed rules (supported by the FCC commissioner again) got more negative comments than any purposed rule in FCC history. The FCC passed final rules based on public comments that wouldn't allow these companies to fundamentally change the way that the Internet had worked since it went public like they wanted to.

Conservative groups cried like babies because they demanded Comcast be allowed to decide for them what they could look at on the internet.


Liberal voters don't care about Liberal lies.


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Originally posted by: chefantwon
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
I'll ask again. HOW CAN ANYONE HERE STATE WHAT IS IN THE PLAN WHEN THE FCC WON'T REVEAL ITS CONTENTS UNTIL AFTER THEY VOTE ON IT?

ObeyMe was all for FCC regulations transparency concerning changes to the regulations when he was a Senator. What changed?

Notwithstanding these efforts, many Members of Congress argued the Commission should be even more transparent. At a September 2007 public hearing in Chicago, Senator Obama submitted a statement that he “strongly requested” the FCC “put out any changes that they intend to vote on in a new notice of proposed rulemaking.” A month later, in a letter to Chairman Martin, Senator Obama argued that both the “proposed timeline and process are irresponsible.” He specifically noted while a certain proposal “may pass the muster of a federal court, Congress and the public have the right to review any specific proposal and decide whether or not it constitutes sound policy. And the commission has the responsibility to defend any new proposal in public discourse and debate. The following month Senator Obama cosponsored bipartisan legislation to block the Commission’s vote on the rulemaking, pursuant to a 90-day comment period.

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Obummer lied... He lied about health care, he lied about Iraq, He lied about being transparent. Obama has lied from day 1 and will continue until the day he leaves office....


Let's take bets on who gets the first waiver from the new regulations......just like the Obamacare waivers. I suspect it will be a "loyal" Democrat --- probably Comcast as they have been propping up MSNBC and Al Sharpton for years.
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