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Originally posted by: malibber2Quote
Originally posted by: CowboyKell
Yeah PJ, you're off your game on this one. You usually do your religion good service but you lost this time. Even Forky isn't helping you out.
There are some bat shit crazy people out there, that's for sure, but the majority of the folks in this matter are doing what they should be doing. Its every citizens job to keep tabs on the government. If everyone did we would have a much more functional government no matter which way it leaned. If every citizen were as concerned as the people in that video we could dismiss the nut jobs while at the same time eliminate the corruption that is so rampant in our government.
You know I would agree with you to a certain extent, but given our recent history the behavior is downright bizarre.
We let our last President trick is into a war that ended up costing 6 trillion dollars by all estimates. They said it would be a "cake walk." They said take our word for it we have seen classified things you haven't. They told us we couldn't wait for the evidence of a mushroom cloud coming in. If people disagreed or simply wanted some evidence what they said was true they were called traitors. It was a "you are either with or against us" mentality.
Now these same yokels that were cheerleaders for that disaster are insisting they are entitled to be briefed on every aspect of a military training exercise. Sure it doesn't have anything to do with race.
Nobody got "tricked" into a war. This country was reeling from 9/11, the worst ever terrorists' attack on US soil. I watched and the world watched people jumpimng from the towers until they eventually fell. True it seemed like invading Iraq would be a cakewalk when looking back at how easy desert storm was, hell we didn't even lose any men to enemy fire did we? Any sitting pres. was going to react, the majority of the country wanted blood for lack of a better term.I'm pretty sure Clinton would've. Obama? I dunno, he would probably use some of his diplomatic prowess to try and resolve the situation{sarc}. Anyhoo, beside the point.
Also, it's completely laughable you bitch about 6 trillion dollars when Obama has added(and still adding) to our national debt? Give you hint, it's more than 12 bucks.. Remember his little speech as a sen.? I'll refresh your memory.
'The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government can not pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance
from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that "the buck stops here." Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.'
Read more at https://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/debtlimit.asp#dTfmu35xeEveObgT.99
How about all those "shovel ready" jobs that cost I think 800 mil. Meanwhile the infrastructure is still crumbling and the man himself laughed once when shovel ready jobs was brought up.So don't even complain about what seems a paltry 6 billion now.
I'd also like to know what the hell is up with this thing about wal mart and secret tunnels or whatever, I'd really like to read wherever it was you got that. Do you really think there's people out there who are believing that? I watched part of that town hall meeting, I sure didn't hear anyone bring up anything about secret tunnels, not even wal mart. Oh no Chinese soldiers either. Sounds to me like you're the only who thinks others believe something that absurd. Well, there's probably a few radical militant trypes who might, but it sure as hell doubt it's the mainstream thinking.
Cowboy put very well and it was even English AND very articulate, you should go read it again Mal.
BTWI'm serious, I'd love to see the article or whatever about secret tunnels, Chinese soldier and wal mart, post a link please, even if it is the daily kos or huff post.
ADDED LAST MIN.I was just rereading and I found your closing lines interesting,
"Now these same yokels that were cheerleaders for that disaster are insisting they are entitled to be briefed on every aspect of a military training exercise. Sure it doesn't have anything to do with race."
You bitch about your unwanted war and the "secrecy" about the reasons,now the US military wants to do a massive, multi-state "exercise and people (US citizens) want to know whats going on. Whoever said anything about "every aspect" of what's going on, I didn't get that from the TH meeting at all. Wouldn't you be a little freaked out if you came across a bunch of troops rolling on the outskirts of your town? wouldn't you want to know what the hell was going on? I know I would but then again maybe I watched Red Dawn too many times
I'm also curious why you switched your thinking on the race of the pres as the reason some are concerned about this exercise..?
I would still want to know tho.