Obamacare & The Supreme Court - Round 2

I suspect that the law is unconstitutional, and I suspect that it will be confirmed as so. I suspect that most Liberals aren't concerned with the passing of only constitutional laws.

Does Forkie, Chilly, and PJ wish for the law to be passed, even if it turns out to be unconstitutional? Most Liberals (and some who incorrectly consider themselves to be conservative) don't concern themselves with constitutionality.

Breaking News, Boilerman .....
The law has already been passed and deemed constitutional by the Supreme Court. You've been asked to provide the Amendment the law is violating...but you cant - because you have no idea what you are talking about.

I understand you have a habit of redefining words in the English language like "Constitutional" - nothing a simple SAT prep class couldn't help you with.

I'll respect whatever verdict the Supreme Court returns in regards to the interpretation of one sentence in the law. But that sentence has nothing to do with the Constitutionality of the law itself.

If the Supreme Court deems the clear statement of the Law to explicitly deny subsidies to those enrolled through a Federal Exchange, then it could be argued that the President has exceeded his Constitutional authority by granting the subsidies.
Everything eventually comes back to the Constitution one way or another.

Such a decision does not "destroy" the Law. It just denies subsidies to one class of health care insurance enrollees, . . . albeit a large class. Those folks'll just need to decide in accordance with the Law whether to pay-their own way or to pay the penalty tax, . . . or, if eligible, to go onto Medicaid.

Life will go on either way.

According to a Google search, there are roughly 76 million baby boomers alive. The 2010 census put us about 308 million people. Roughly 129 million people are working in the US. In about the next 17 years, just about all of the baby boomers will be out of the workforce if they retire at 67.

We tend to use the medical system more the older we get and 76 million of us is going to put a strain on the insurance companies to take care of everyones needs. The President came up with the brilliant idea of Obama Care. Based upon the model of Social Security where those who are working pay for those who don't. Just how solvent is Social Security? Not very as it will be going broke sometime near 2033. (according to cnn)

The above should be enough to give everyone a bit of an idea where I'm going. Its a simple fact of numbers and how much those young folks are going to be paying for all these big government programs.

The money is going to be coming from somewhere and it will most likely not be coming from the rich as most of you on the left want. People who have it find a way to keep it despite anything the government does and that is a fact. So, who winds up paying for all of this? The average citizen.

To believe otherwise is like believing that you can't get taxed on your Social Security benefits.

More facts for Obamacare haters to pretend don't exist.



Washington Post, June 16, 2015

A recent audit shows that almost $3b in subsidies were unsubstantiated

I'm still wondering where that 250 dollar per family savings is going to kick in..OH, also, when is the ACA going to start paying for itself again? It's been a fiasco from start to present day, and it's gonna get worse.

Good points.

Except for it's saving families far more than $250, is more than paying for itself, and is working well, even better than its advocates predicted.

$250? I thought it was supposed to be $2500

OOPS, that's what I meant to type, missed a zero. Yea, isn't that what the Obama was selling?, along with the whole "if you like your plan...blah blah blah". Such a complete and total liar, and he knew it along too, selling people a pack of lies like that is pretty disgusting, even for a politician. That has to be in the top 3 lies ever told/promised by any president of not the worst.