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Originally posted by: billryan
No one said not to make money. The key, I will repeat, is to keep your Federal taxable income down. If some clown reads that as saying not to make money, that is truly their problem.
Ask Mitt Romney if low Federal taxable income equals low income. You don't have to lose a billion dollars to take advantage of the Byzantine tax codes.
A 50 year old owner of a business can put $59,000 into a 401k this year, as can their spouse.
Then each throw in $25,000 in profit sharing. That's without taking a single business deduction, or personal deduction for that matter. Instead of living on this weeks paycheck, you live.on last year's profit.
Fools scoff. The wise nod, knowingly.


So taking advantage of existing tax laws to avoid paying income tax is "free shit" but taking advantage of tax laws to reduce the financial impact of obamacare is being "wise". Got it!

I will refer you to the last sentence of my post.
I quoted it, no need for you to refer to it.
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Originally posted by: billryan
A 50 year old owner of a business can put $59,000 into a 401k this year, as can their spouse.
Then each throw in $25,000 in profit sharing. That's without taking a single business deduction, or personal deduction for that matter.

Well, genius, if EVERYONE in this country owned their own business, where would they go to hire workers?

What percentage of working-age Americans own their own businesses? I don’t know the answer, but I’d guess it’s less than 10%. The rest are workers, not owners. And for them, your “solutions” don’t work for shit.

I think it’s pretty obvious who’s the clown here. I’ll stand by my “abject stupidity” conclusion about you.


Why don't you own your own business? Perhaps you are lazy, or most likely just stupid. I worked full time for the Commerce Dept when I opened my side business. Tax considerations are such that there is no logical reason not to open one. Are you that lazy you can't throw a few things on eBay and get yourself a domain name. The IRS let's a new business go three years without showing a profit, during which time you get all the benefits of a business.
As I said,fools scoff.
Abject stupidity is not realizing how little one knows and revelling in it.
There is a reason why tax preparation is a multi-billion business. But please keep doing your own, e appreciate your contribution. The harder you work, the less the rest of us have to.
Pay particular attention to the last benefit. Perhaps you like paying more taxes than are needed.

Being self-employed means taking on risks and costs that you don’t have when you work for someone else. You’re responsible for getting customers and generating income, for constantly proving the value of your product or service. You also have to pay the phone and Internet bills you incur to get and keep those customers, the travel expenses to meet with them and the liability insurance in case they sue you.

Tutorial: Starting A Small Business

Numerous lines of tax code have been written to soften the blow of having to cover these extra costs. And you should claim every business tax deduction you qualify for: Your business’s profitability depends on minimizing your costs and maximizing your resources. In this article, we'll explain some common tax deductions available to the self-employed. (For more, see Can You Handle A Home-Based Business?)

Self-Employment Tax Deduction

The self-employment tax refers to the employer portion of Medicare and Social Security taxes that self-employed people must pay. Everyone who works must pay these taxes, which for 2015 are 7.65% for employees and 15.30% for the self-employed. Here’s how the rates break down:

– 6.2% Social Security tax each for employee and employer on the first $118,500 in wages

– 1.45% Medicare tax each for employee and employer with no wage limit

You will owe an additional Medicare tax of 0.9% in the following situations:

Filing Status


Income

Single


$200,000

Married filing jointly


$250,000

Married filing separately


$125,000

The income thresholds apply not just to self-employment income, but to your combined wages, compensation and self-employment income. So if you have $100,000 in self-employment income and your spouse has $160,000 in wage income, you’ll have to pay the additional Medicare tax of 0.9% on the $10,000 by which your joint income exceeds the $250,000 threshold.

Paying extra taxes to be your own boss is no fun. The good news is that the self-employment tax will cost you less than you might think because you get to deduct half of your self-employment tax from your net income. Essentially, the IRS treats the “employer” portion of the self-employment tax as a business expense and allows you to deduct it accordingly. What’s more, you only pay self-employment tax on 92.35% of your net business income – what's left over after you subtract your other business expenses.

Remember, you're paying the first 7.65% no matter whom you work for. And when you work for someone else, you’re indirectly paying the other 7.65% because that’s money your employer can’t afford to add to your salary. At least when you’re self-employed you get to deduct part of the tax expense. (Keep reading on this in Top 4 At-Home Financial Jobs and Should You Incorporate Your Business?)

Home Office

The home office deduction is one of the more complex deductions. In short, the cost of any workspace that you use regularly and exclusively for your business, regardless of whether you rent or own it, can be deducted as a home office expense. You are basically on the honor system, but you should be prepared to defend your deduction in the event of an audit. One way to do this is to prepare a specific map of your workspace, with the correct measurements, in case you are required to submit this information to substantiate your deduction. (For more information on what is required for an audit, see Surviving The IRS Audit.)

The expenses you can deduct for your home office include the business percentage of deductible mortgage interest, home depreciation, property taxes, utilities, homeowners insurance and home maintenance that you pay during the year. For example, if your home office occupies 15% of your home, then 15% of your annual electricity bill becomes tax deductible. (For more, see How To Qualify For The Home-Office Tax Deduction and Creating A Home Business Work Space.)

You have two choices for calculating your home office deduction: the standard method and the simplified option, and you don’t have to use the same method every year. The standard method requires you to calculate your actual home office expenses. The simplified option lets you multiply an IRS-determined rate by your home office square footage. To use the simplified option, your home office must not be larger than 300 square feet, and you cannot deduct depreciation or home-related itemized deductions.

The simplified option might be a clear choice if you’re pressed for time or don’t have good records of your deductible home office expenses. However, because the simplified option is calculated as $5 per square foot, with a maximum of 300 square feet, the most you’ll be able to deduct is $1,500. If you want to make sure you’re claiming the largest home office deduction you’re entitled to, you’ll want to calculate the deduction using both the regular and simplified methods, making the “simplified” method anything but.If you choose the standard method, calculate the deduction using IRS form 8829, Expenses for Business Use of Your Home.

Internet and Phone

Regardless of whether you claim the home office deduction, you can deduct your business phone, fax and Internet expenses. The key is to only deduct the expenses directly related to your business. If you have only one phone, you shouldn't deduct your entire monthly bill, which includes both personal and business use. You should only deduct costs that specifically relate to your business. If you have a second phone line that you use exclusively for business, however, you can deduct 100% of that cost. By the same token, you would only deduct your monthly Internet expenses in proportion to how much of your time online is related to business – perhaps 25% to 50%.

Health Insurance Premiums

If you are self-employed, pay for your own health insurance premiums, and were not eligible to participate in a plan through your spouse's employer, you can deduct all of your health, dental and qualified long-term care insurance premiums. You can also deduct premiums that you paid to provide coverage for your spouse, your dependents and your children who were younger than 27 at year-end, even if they aren’t dependents. Calculate the deduction using the Self-Employed Health Insurance Deduction Worksheet in IRS publication 535. (For more, see Buying Private Health Insurance.)

Meals

A meal is a tax-deductible business expense when you are traveling for business or entertaining a client. The meal cannot be lavish or extravagant under the circumstances, and you can only deduct 50% of the meal’s actual cost, if you keep your receipts, or 50% of the standard meal allowance, if you keep records of the time, place and business purpose of your travel but not your actual meal receipts.

Entertainment

Wouldn’t it be great to get box seats to see your favorite sports team and write off the cost as a business expense? You might be able to, but tread carefully: The IRS has numerous restrictions on claiming the business entertainment tax deduction. For starters, you must conduct business with the person you are entertaining during, immediately before or immediately after the event. If your entertainment expense meets all the tests, it’s still only 50% deductible. Make sure you’re prepared for an audit by keeping meticulous records of what business activity you conducted, when, with whom, and how it directly relates to the entertainment expense. Keep your receipts, too.

Travel

Meals and entertainment are often intertwined with another tax deductible expense: business travel. To qualify, it must last longer than an ordinary workday, require you to get sleep or rest, and take place away from the general area of your tax home (usually, outside the city where your business is located).

Further, to be considered a business trip, you should have a specific business purpose planned before you leave home, and you must actually engage in business activity – such as finding new customers, meeting with clients or learning new skills directly related to your business – while you are on the road. Handing out business cards at a bar during your friend’s bachelor party won’t make your trip to Vegas tax deductible. Keep complete and accurate records and receipts for your business travel expenses and activities, as this deduction often draws attention from the IRS.

Deductible travel expenses include the cost of transportation to and from your destination (such as plane fare), the cost of transportation at your destination (such as a car rental, Uber fare or subway tickets), lodging and meals. You can’t deduct lavish or extravagant expenses, but you don’t have to choose the cheapest options available, either. You, not your fellow taxpayers, will be paying the bulk of your travel costs, though, so it’s in your interest to keep them reasonable.

100% of your travel expenses for business are deductible, except for meals and entertainment, which are limited to 50%. If your trip combines business with pleasure, things get a lot more complicated; in a nutshell, you can only deduct the expenses related to the business portion of your trip – and don’t forget that the business part needs to be planned ahead.

Car

When you use your car for business, your expenses for those drives are tax deductible. Make sure to keep excellent records and don’t try to claim personal car trips as business trips. You can calculate your deduction using either the standard mileage rate (determined annually by the IRS) or your actual expenses.

The standard mileage rate is the easiest because it requires minimal record-keeping and calculation. Just write down the business miles you drive and the dates you drive them. Then, multiply your total annual business miles by the standard mileage rate (56 cents per mile for 2014; 57.5 cents per mile for 2015). This amount is your deductible expense.

To use the actual expense method, you must calculate the percentage of driving you did for business all year as well as the total cost of operating your car, including gas, oil changes, registration fees, repairs and car insurance. If you spent $3,000 on car operating expenses and used your car for business 10% of the time, your deduction would be $300.

Interest

Interest on a business loan from a bank is a tax-deductible business expense. Credit card interest is not tax deductible when you incur the interest for personal purchases, but when it interest applies to business purchases, it is tax deductible. That said, it's always cheaper to spend only the money you already have and not incur any interest expenses at all. A tax deduction only gives you some of your money back, not all of it, so try to avoid borrowing money.

Publications and Subscriptions

The cost of specialized magazines, journals and books directly related to your business is tax deductible. For example, a daily newspaper would not be specific enough to be considered a business expense, but a subscription to "Nation’s Restaurant News" would be tax deductible if you are a restaurant owner, and Nathan Myhrvold’s $625 "Modernist Cuisine" is a legitimate book purchase for self-employed, high-end personal chef.

Education

Any education expenses you want to deduct must be related to maintaining or improving your skills for your existing business; the cost of classes to prepare for a new line of work isn’t deductible. If you’re a real estate consultant, taking a course called "Real Estate Investment Analysis" to brush up on your skills would be tax deductible, but a class on how to teach yoga would not be. (Learn more about paying for college in Invest In Yourself With A College Education and Pay For College Without Selling A Kidney.)

The Best Self-Employed Tax Deduction of All

One deduction in particular can make going into business for yourself particularly profitable: the deduction for self-employed retirement plans. Contributions to SEP-IRAs, SIMPLE IRAs and solo 401(k)s reduce your tax bill now and help you rack up tax-deferred investment gains for later. For the 2014 tax year, you could feasibly contribute as much as $17,500 in deferred salary ($23,000 if you’re 50 or older) plus another 25% of your net self-employment earnings after deducting one-half of self-employment tax and contributions for yourself, up to a maximum of $52,000 total for both contribution categories, with a self-employed 401(k), for example. Contributions limits vary by plan type and the IRS adjusts the maximums annually. In 2015, for example, the solo 401(k) contribution limit increases to $53,000. (To keep reading about these plans, see 401(k) Plans For The Small Business Owner and Top Retirement Strategies for Freelancers.)

Read more: 10 Tax Deductions & Benefits For The Self-Employed | Investopedia https://www.investopedia.com/articles/tax/09/self-employed-tax-deductions.asp#ixzz4MY0J8VVx
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You can be employed full time and have your own business. one other huge advantage. You can hire your ten year old son to clean up the office and deposit his wages into an IRA.
Max out his IRA starting at age ten puts him lights years ahead when it comes to his own retirement.
But, as you said its stupid.
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Originally posted by: billryan
Why don't you own your own business? Perhaps you are lazy, or most likely just stupid.

In the 1980s, I joined a group of managers who pooled their resources to buy a business that the parent company (an international corporation) wanted to sell. Banks loaned us most of the money, but they wanted the managers to be “fully involved.” I put up everything I owned, including my investment accounts, my retirement accounts, the deed to my house, and even my cars.

My wife didn’t want me to do it, because the downside risk was so large. But I saw what I thought was a major opportunity, so I did it. For the first few years, when things were looking iffy, I think she hated me. Fortunately, things turned around, and we did just fine.

I’d be happy to compare my net worth to yours any day, bill. But that’s not the important thing. The important thing is that you, and liberal politicians, and the mainstream media, think you know everything. Truth is, you don’t know shit, and you’re running this country into the ground.


Actually, Billy is right. He is just being a typical ass about it.
Kool story, bro. I'm sure you have magnificent man hands, as well.
It's been years since I tallied my net worth, but if you send me an email address, Ill shoot you some photos of my most recent art acquisition. It's a exquisite Sculptured Royal Daulton that's insured for $35,000. It's sitting on my entertainment center as I type this. Not too shabby for a boy from Queens.
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