Obamacare Assessments

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Originally posted by: billryan
Millions have left the old economy brick and mortar type jobs to drive for uber or lyft . . .

I've always wanted to drive for uber or lyft. It's been a secret lifetime ambition.

Perhaps, one day, when you grow up.
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Originally posted by: billryan
Everyone can be a business owner. In Nevada it takes $35 to get a dba and a tax id.
The Federal government even funds a group called SCORE that will hold ones hand and walk you through the process. I try to help those who try to help themselves. Every American can be a business owner, despite your ridiculous belief that there would be no workers for them. When I had four clubs running consecutively, I had about fifteen employees, and about seventy independent contractors working for me. It saved me a small fortune and saved them even more.


Everyone can obtain a business license and tax ID. That doesn't make them a business owner. Every kind of business requires capital to invest in the business creation, or existing owned resources to use for the venture (stuff that also costs money). You didn't automatically own four clubs just because you had the dba's and tax id's.

Most people either don't have the resources to start their own business (and pay their bills until/if/when it becomes profitable), or they aren't willing to risk everything they have worked for and earned during their lifetime on a "new job". I've done it on borrowed money, paid back the loan, and sold the business for a profit. That was a little more than 30-years-ago. I sold it because I also owned and was running another business at the same time. I was working a scheduled 110 hours a week between the two, and that was going to kill me if I didn't get rid of one of the "jobs".

A large majority of your employees were independent contractors? In clubs? What kind of clubs?
One can start a business for almost no money, if one desires it. I know a guy who started a boat detailing business with 500 business cards and a couple hundred dollars of cleaning supplies. Another who went from pedaling a pedal cab to owning ten of them in six months.
One of my oldest friends went from scrounging hubcaps along parkway to being one of the leading suppliers of chrome rims in the country.
Today, at McManus Auctions, I was talking to a kid buying sterling silver. He said he started with $2,000 two years ago and now does that a week, with about a 20 % margin.
He's far from rich but he's got a hundred grand a year business.
The auctioneer moved to Vegas 17 years ago and opened a consignment store. Now he owns a warehouse thats about 50,000 feet and has a dozen or so employees.
I started my own business back in 1983 for $3,000 and if I knew then what I have since learned it would have been a lot less. When I sold it 18 months later, it was doing that a week with margins over 70%, and I still didn't have a cash register.
$500 in inventory and a spot in a decent flea market got my friend Vincent started in the comic business in the early 90s. Today he's a millionaire many times over.In fact, he just bought a copy of the first SuperMan for three million dollars.
If someone has passion, they'll find the way. If they don't, it's best they go work for someone.Some people simply don't believe.

All anecdotal Billy. I know a guy who started making motorcycle handlebar grips that he made and delivered to motorcycle shops from the back of his station wagon. He'd drop off a display box of grips at the cycle shops and tell them he'd be back in a week or two to collect his percentage of what was sold. His grips turned out to be a good selling product. He couldn't keep up with the demand delivering the product on is own, so he hooked up with a cycle parts distributor. The distributor was surprised that he didn't have a name for his business and told him he needed a business/brand name. His dog's name was Oakley, so from that point forward, his business/brand name was Oakley. Jim sold Oakley a few years ago for several billion dollars.

There are many examples of hard work and dedication resulting in business success. At the same time, there are more examples of business failure. 25% of new businesses fail in the first year. That jumps to 50% by the fourth year and over 70% in the tenth year. Startup Business Failure Rate

My point is, starting/owning your own business is full of risks. Many people lose their asses pursuing that goal. It is much more than obtaining a dba and tax id. I know what it is like to write checks on Friday for everyone except me.

I still want to know....A large majority of your employees were independent contractors? In clubs? What kind of clubs?

Billy's #1 goal is to minimize earned income. Billy doesn't understand why government policy which encourages such goals discourages innovative technology and hard work.


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Originally posted by: billryan
Perhaps, one day, when you grow up.


More low paying obamanomics jobs

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Originally posted by: clcjim
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Originally posted by: billryan
Millions have left the old economy brick and mortar type jobs to drive for uber or lyft . . .

I've always wanted to drive for uber or lyft. It's been a secret lifetime ambition.


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Originally posted by: clcjim
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Originally posted by: billryan
Millions have left the old economy brick and mortar type jobs to drive for uber or lyft . . .

I've always wanted to drive for uber or lyft. It's been a secret lifetime ambition.

"Uber"? "Lyft"?
Bull ! ! !

When DonDiego was a little boy he was promised there'd be flying cars. Whatever happened to that promise ? ? ?

I loved trump's response to Health care last night - its basically what you get from all Republicans:

There's still going to be insurance exchanges and guaranteed coverage for pre-existing conditions. But...But they first need to repeal the existing exchanges and guaranteed coverage for pre-existing conditions....and then re-implement the same exact thing with small tweaks.

What do Republicans hate most about Obamacare ? Obama. Their plan is 90% the same thing only without his name on it.


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Just to set the record straight: No Republican in the US House or Senate voted for The Obamacare.

__Obamacare passed the Senate, 60–39, on December 24, 2009, with all Democrats and two independents (Senators Lieberman and Sanders who caucused with the Democrats) voting for it, and all Republicans against (except Jim Bunning, who did not vote).

__The House passed the Senate bill with a 219–212 vote on March 21, 2010, with 34 Democrats and all 178 Republicans voting against it.

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The original post on this thread comprised (1) President Clinton criticizing The Obamacare for penalizing working Americans by increasing their insurance premiums and cutting their insurance coverage and (2) The New York Times editorializing that "[The Obamacare] will, . . . have to change to survive.

So, . . . like, . . . uh, . . . why are posters blaming the Republicans for a plan that penalizes working Americans that was passed without a single Republican vote ?
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