Obamacare is a Money-Machine, . . .

I kind of have to agree with forkushv about jatki99"s comment - in no way can one say calling forkushv an "outlier" an insult - after all, anyone who has been subjected to any of forkushv's comments knows that forkushv being himself is the true insult...
PJ assured me that Obamacare would not be a wealth redistribution program, and I assured him that it would be. Boiler wins..................yet PJ always understood that Boiler would win.


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Originally posted by: billryan
Before Obamacare, as a sole proprietor, it was very tough to get decent health insurance in NY State. The last year, I was paying $892 a month, with a $50 deductible for doctors visits and $15 per prescription after a $50 annual deductible. The first year of OC, my premiums were $468 and I got a $320 tax credit , so my out of pocket was $148. No deductibles and my prescriptions were free. This year, my premiums went to $529 and my tax credit fell to $220. So should I be outraged that my cost this year more than doubled- from $148 to $309, or rejoice that I'm still saving about $7000 a year from before it started. For 2016, my premiums are currently $55something and my tax credits stayed the same. I'm moving to Nevada so I will need new insurance. Policies look pretty good so far.


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Originally posted by: billryan
Before Obamacare, as a sole proprietor, it was very tough to get decent health insurance in NY State. The last year, I was paying $892 a month, with a $50 deductible for doctors visits and $15 per prescription after a $50 annual deductible. The first year of OC, my premiums were $468 and I got a $320 tax credit , so my out of pocket was $148. No deductibles and my prescriptions were free. This year, my premiums went to $529 and my tax credit fell to $220. So should I be outraged that my cost this year more than doubled- from $148 to $309, or rejoice that I'm still saving about $7000 a year from before it started. For 2016, my premiums are currently $55something and my tax credits stayed the same. I'm moving to Nevada so I will need new insurance. Policies look pretty good so far.

DonDiego congratulates billryan on his good fortune with Obamacare; perhaps he has managed to fall into a sweet spot of the badly-drafted legislation.
DonDiego certainly hopes that billryan is not among those who's credits were un-verified, the original subject of this thread.
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: jatki99
The absolute only thing Forkie has left is attacking sources and namecalling. How utterly pathetic.
Oh gawd, does he actually think that "outlier" is an insult?



I wasn't really referring to this thread alone(re namecalling), but you knew that. Then again, you claim people (schoolchildren) can be murdered by magazines. Whether they have ammunition in them or not.

One more EDIT. I meant to ask you, are the 30 capacity magazines deadlier than the ten round mags.? I'm sure if loaded, both are about equally deadly, but I was more curious in your claim.

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Originally posted by: jatki99
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: jatki99
The absolute only thing Forkie has left is attacking sources and namecalling. How utterly pathetic.
Oh gawd, does he actually think that "outlier" is an insult?



I wasn't really referring to this thread alone(re namecalling), but you knew that. Then again, you claim people (schoolchildren) can be murdered by magazines. Whether they have ammunition in them or not.

One more EDIT. I meant to ask you, are the 30 capacity magazines deadlier than the ten round mags.? I'm sure if loaded, both are about equally deadly, but I was more curious in your claim.
I don't want to hijack this thread, but the answer to your question is that a weapon that can murder 30 children without reloading is more dangerous than one that must be reloaded two or more times to accomplish the same number of child murders.

And in 2016, evaluating the source of claims is just a basic part being literate. They even teach it in schools. But you don't do that, do you? You just see if you agree with a claim, and then the credibility of the source doesn't matter to you, does it?
Fitch Ratings looked at nearly three dozen BCBS companies and found that 23 saw a decline in earnings that totaled $1.9 billion in the first nine months of last year, while 16 had net losses.

Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan lost $622 million from January through September last year. Blue Cross plans in Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico and Montana lost $442 billion. And those in Pennsylvania, Delaware and West Virginia lost $266 million.

Or as Fitch puts it: “Cost and utilization trends from state insurance exchanges from the Affordable Care Act have been higher than anticipated and are the primary drivers of declining earnings
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