Obamacare Rates Increasing, . . . no,really ! They really are.

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Originally posted by: chafraho
483 bucks? cool. we're way better off than this tread led me to believe.

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Originally posted by: alanleroy

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Originally posted by: chafraho
So, remind me somebody, please. What was the cost of continuing with obamacare?
353 Billion would send me to vegas 2 or 3 times next year. What percentage of the total deficit is that?

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It's really only projected to be 137 Billion over 10 years...so 13.7 Billion a year. The 2014 Federal Deficit was $483 so that savings is a little less than 3%. Ironically, it's less than the amount of annual Medicare fraud, but still enough for a couple of first class Vegas trips.

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Originally posted by: snidely333

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Originally posted by: alanleroy

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Originally posted by: chafraho
So, remind me somebody, please. What was the cost of continuing with obamacare?
353 Billion would send me to vegas 2 or 3 times next year. What percentage of the total deficit is that?

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It's really only projected to be 137 Billion over 10 years...so 13.7 Billion a year. The 2014 Federal Deficit was $483 so that savings is a little less than 3%. Ironically, it's less than the amount of annual Medicare fraud, but still enough for a couple of first class Vegas trips.

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Can we afford to get special hats made and some fancy hookers?

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Originally posted by: pjstroh

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Originally posted by: alanleroy
Why yes. The CBO rescinded their 2011 Budget Deficit Reduction Projection so quietly that PJ could not hear it. Yet still he knows...even if there really is no evidence as AlanLeroy originally stated and PJ's Pulitzer Prize winning organization confirmed and the CBO now admits. Perhaps PJ really believes that 2011 is "earlier this year" as he claimed. Maybe he'll catch up with the rest of us before too long. We can only hope.

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The CBO's original estimate was based on the non-existent evidence AlanLeroy passionately explains we just don't have...and our the whole board got a little dumber. But that was ancient times...2011. SO how about one from last month?
June 2015 - CBO Report

- somewhere between 100 billion and 300 billion dollars

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
The CBO is only as good as the data that Obama and friends ram into the CBO's analytical programs. Junk in junk out.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh

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Originally posted by: alanleroy
Why yes. The CBO rescinded their 2011 Budget Deficit Reduction Projection so quietly that PJ could not hear it. Yet still he knows...even if there really is no evidence as AlanLeroy originally stated and PJ's Pulitzer Prize winning organization confirmed and the CBO now admits. Perhaps PJ really believes that 2011 is "earlier this year" as he claimed. Maybe he'll catch up with the rest of us before too long. We can only hope.

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The CBO's original estimate was based on the non-existent evidence AlanLeroy passionately explains we just don't have...and our the whole board got a little dumber. But that was ancient times...2011. SO how about one from last month?
June 2015 - CBO Report

- somewhere between 100 billion and 300 billion dollars

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Originally posted by: alanleroy

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Originally posted by: chafraho
483 bucks? cool. we're way better off than this tread led me to believe.

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$483,000,000,000. I rounded it.

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Originally posted by: chafraho
We could get fancy hookers and several special hats. We could even play on a 10 dollar BJ table on Fremont. But we can't get an answer to my question..."What was the cost of continuing with obamacare?"

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Originally posted by: alanleroy

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Originally posted by: chafraho
We could get fancy hookers and several special hats. We could even play on a 10 dollar BJ table on Fremont. But we can't get an answer to my question..."What was the cost of continuing with obamacare?"

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If you're asking what is the cost to the Federal Government of continuing the ACA, the CBO makes the case that it saves the Federal Government 13.7 billion a year...but that's really just the projected impact on the Federal Budget....and there is so much uncertainty that it may not save anything at all.

If you want to look at what it really costs, you have to analyze all of the stakeholders...not just the Federal Government. There are costs to State Governments, Businesses, other branches of government, Taxpayers, and Consumers. There are also benefits and savings to stakeholders including many consumers and certain businesses. Now pushing 20,000 pages of related regulations, I do not think it's possible to know what the total costs or savings are. It's like estimating the real costs of a real fancy hooker * 20,000 pages of rules.

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