Vegas Free-for-All - Obamacare Update

Obamacare Update

billryan

Apr 29, 2016
3:41am

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Hey Libs, did any of you buy the Obamacare sales jobs promising lots of savings? ANY OF YOU?

I realize memory retention isn't your thing, but I've stated many times that I've saved thousands with OC. My first year premiums dropped from $864 to $136 or $172. Currently, I'm at $334. So yes, I believe it has saved me thousands. As I have been banking most of the savings, I can tell you its allowed me to save $15,000 in the bank and whatever I pissed away. It also allowed me to leave the BS job I was stuck in just for the mediocre health benefits. Freed from those time commitments, my part time job has blossomed into a fulltime business and moving to Nevada will save me many more thousands a year.

billryan

Apr 29, 2016
3:42am

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By the way, Emblem Health last year sent out letters saying they were asking for around an $80 a month increase. The increase ,in the end, was under $30.

pjstroh

Apr 29, 2016
3:53am

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Originally posted by: hoops2
"Obamacare "have risen at a drastically lower pace compared to the system that preceeded it"

That isn't what was promised

And I'm so terribly sorry your feelings are hurt.

But you're complaining about an improvement in cost inflation.

Boilerman

Apr 29, 2016
8:00am

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Apparently my question wasn't clear. What I intended to ask was................Is there a Liberal on this site who bought the story that most folks would save money on Obamacare? Is there a Liberal on this site who believed that Obamacare program savings would pay for those like Billy being subsidized, leaving cost reductions for those not being subsidized?

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Originally posted by: billryan

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Hey Libs, did any of you buy the Obamacare sales jobs promising lots of savings? ANY OF YOU?

Boilerman

Apr 30, 2016
3:44am

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I've noticed that the Libs won't touch this with a 10 foot pool. You either admit that Obama's was intentionally lying and that you knew it all along, or you have to admit that you fell for Obama's lie.

Billy already danced around the question. Will any of you admit that you knew in advance that it was a lie?

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Apparently my question wasn't clear. What I intended to ask was................Is there a Liberal on this site who bought the story that most folks would save money on Obamacare? Is there a Liberal on this site who believed that Obamacare program savings would pay for those like Billy being subsidized, leaving cost reductions for those not being subsidized?

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Originally posted by: billryan
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Hey Libs, did any of you buy the Obamacare sales jobs promising lots of savings? ANY OF YOU?

I realize memory retention isn't your thing, but I've stated many times that I've saved thousands with OC. My first year premiums dropped from $864 to $136 or $172. Currently, I'm at $334. So yes, I believe it has saved me thousands. As I have been banking most of the savings, I can tell you its allowed me to save $15,000 in the bank and whatever I pissed away. It also allowed me to leave the BS job I was stuck in just for the mediocre health benefits. Freed from those time commitments, my part time job has blossomed into a fulltime business and moving to Nevada will save me many more thousands a year.

malibber2

Apr 30, 2016
4:27am

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Originally posted by: billryan
In other words- you got nothing.
The company is making almost six billion dollars a year in profit but can't afford to have one losing division. That's greed. Plain and simple.

Insurance companies are doing the same thing they did before Obamacare. They have already figured out how to game the new system. The high deductibles, high copayments, high coinsurance and very narrow networks make it hard for people to file claims. A lot of people that have insurance from the exchanges won't go see a doctor because they know they can't afford to upfront the copay, coinsurance and deductible to get the treatment they need, and in those markets where there are simply too many sick people receiving emergency care they simply pull out all together. It is the same downward spiral as before and the only people that are in better shape are those that made it into the expanded Medicaid system. I think the numbers show many more people than expected enrolled in Medicaid (if you factor in wasn't expanded in every state) and quite a few less are enrolled via the exchanges than expected.

hoops2

Apr 30, 2016
6:14am

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United Healthcare's q4 profit margin was less than 3%.

Liberals think it is ok for companies to lose money than complain when they want a bailout.

Boilerman

Apr 30, 2016
6:38am

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Worse yet, Liberals create policy which cause companies to lose money, and then they demand a bailout. They love the loser and hate the winner.

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Originally posted by: hoops2
United Healthcare's q4 profit margin was less than 3%.

Liberals think it is ok for companies to lose money than complain when they want a bailout.

Don

Apr 30, 2016
6:55am

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Originally posted by: malibber2
Insurance companies are doing the same thing they did before Obamacare. They have already figured out how to game the new system. The high deductibles, high copayments, high coinsurance and very narrow networks make it hard for people to file claims. A lot of people that have insurance from the exchanges won't go see a doctor because they know they can't afford to upfront the copay, coinsurance and deductible to get the treatment they need, and in those markets were there are simply too many sick people receiving emergency care they simply pull out all together. . . . .

One would've thought The Obama would've seen this coming.

In any case, malibber seems to recognize The Obamacare is not a rousing success.

billryan

Apr 30, 2016
7:10am

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Worse yet, Liberals create policy which cause companies to lose money, and then they demand a bailout. They love the loser and hate the winner.

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Originally posted by: hoops2
United Healthcare's q4 profit margin was less than 3%.

Liberals think it is ok for companies to lose money than complain when they want a bailout.

Did your mommy tell you that to make you feel better?

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