The Other Side

The Billo allegations aren't anonymously sourced. They have the court transcripts.
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
A blogger with an internet connection and his own web page posted an anonymous rumor suggesting something unscrupulous about a person from THE OTHER SIDE. Its safe to presume this rumor is true until the subject of the rumor can prove it isn't.

But there's no reason to be abstract. The "sides" are always the same when this scenario manifests.

You're talking about the Bill O'Reilly Gawker allegations, right?
Nope. Gawker isn't a blogger posting an anonymous rumor. But Gawker does have an internet connection just like PJ's example, so I can see how you got confused.

Ok smart guy...
Well at least you got that part right.

No, Gawker isn't a blogger, it's a fairly popular publication. No, a blogger didn't post an anonymous rumor, a publication (Gawker) cited an anonymous source. You know, like Deep Throat in the Watergate saga. And no, Gawker isn't on the "other side" of anybody; they are click-bait whores who would post silly Benghazi stories if they thought it would get hits.

By the way, the last four sources I cited here were from the Washington Post, Pew Research, Time Magazine, and the Lexington Herald Leader. DonDiego's most recent citation was from a Koch/Rove funded publication that laundered money for Jack Abramoff, and took money from Philip Morris to lobby in favor of a better deal in the tobacco deaths lawsuit. For science, the right-wingers here cite a blogger with a tip jar and a "scientist" who doubts climate change AND evolution. I cite the American Meteorological Association.

Both sides do it? Bullshit.
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Originally posted by: forkushV
No, Gawker isn't a blogger, it's a fairly popular publication. No, a blogger didn't post an anonymous rumor, a publication (Gawker) cited an anonymous source. You know, like Deep Throat in the Watergate saga.

Both sides do it? Bullshit.

So...Forkush equates the Gawker Celebrity Gossip blog with The Washington Post. How cute. I imagine that any future Gawker allegation against a Democrat will be accepted as Gospel....because they are so well known for maintaining journalistic integrity.

Both sides do indeed do it...and not at the low level of the LVA...at the highest levels of the body politic. How bout Harry Reid...On the Senate Floor....Where he can't be sued for Slander...

"So the word is out that he has not paid any taxes for 10 years. Let him prove he has paid taxes, because he has not." "I was told by an extremely credible source that Romney has not paid taxes for 10 years."
Harry Reid 2012."

"Romney Didn't Win, Did He?"
Harry Reid 2015 when asked if he regretted slandering Romney on the Senate Floor.

Same Shit. Different Political Hack.





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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: forkushV
No, Gawker isn't a blogger, it's a fairly popular publication. No, a blogger didn't post an anonymous rumor, a publication (Gawker) cited an anonymous source. You know, like Deep Throat in the Watergate saga.

Both sides do it? Bullshit.

So...Forkush equates the Gawker Celebrity Gossip blog with The Washington Post...
No, I was simply trying to explain to you the difference between a lone blogger and Gawker, a lone blogger posting gossip and a publication citing an anonymous source, and a lone partisan blogger versus an non-partisan publication.

I guess I should have typed slower.

Next I suppose I'll have to explain the meaning of the word "slander" to you.

You're all on the other side, obviously.
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Originally posted by: chafraho
You're all on the other side, obviously.

Well, many are. Maybe even most. But not all.

Not hardly all.


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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: forkushV
No, Gawker isn't a blogger, it's a fairly popular publication. No, a blogger didn't post an anonymous rumor, a publication (Gawker) cited an anonymous source. You know, like Deep Throat in the Watergate saga.

Both sides do it? Bullshit.

So...Forkush equates the Gawker Celebrity Gossip blog with The Washington Post...
No, I was simply trying to explain to you the difference between a lone blogger and Gawker, a lone blogger posting gossip and a publication citing an anonymous source, and a lone partisan blogger versus an non-partisan publication.

I guess I should have typed slower.

Next I suppose I'll have to explain the meaning of the word "slander" to you.

Citing anonymous and questionable sources to attack political opposition...especially at a personal level is no way to go through life Whether it's one person's blog or a writer with a vendetta from the 'Publication' Gawker or the 'Publication' 'National Inquirer they are not known for journalistic integrity. You said it yourself....the celebrity gossip blog Gawker whores for clicks. So yeah, Gawker isn't the same as a one man blog with political bias. But it isn't a model of journalistic integrity either.....and they don't care as long as they get the eyeballs.

And I'm not sure which is sleazier...A right wing LVA poster linking to some political blog with anonymous sources that he thinks is true; a left wing LVA poster linking to some Celebrity Gossip 'Publication' with anonymous sources that he thinks is true...but doesn't really care as long as it attacks 'Faux News'...Or Harry Reid on the Senate Floor smearing Mitt Romney with anonymous allegations' that he knew weren't true. Make no mistake...they're all sleazy...and both sides do it....The politics of personal destruction.
Alan as I said once before it is true they have the court transcripts. The source told them about the case and they went and got the transcripts.
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: forkushV
No, Gawker isn't a blogger, it's a fairly popular publication. No, a blogger didn't post an anonymous rumor, a publication (Gawker) cited an anonymous source. You know, like Deep Throat in the Watergate saga.

Both sides do it? Bullshit.

So...Forkush equates the Gawker Celebrity Gossip blog with The Washington Post...
No, I was simply trying to explain to you the difference between a lone blogger and Gawker, a lone blogger posting gossip and a publication citing an anonymous source, and a lone partisan blogger versus an non-partisan publication.

I guess I should have typed slower.

Next I suppose I'll have to explain the meaning of the word "slander" to you.

Citing anonymous and questionable sources to attack political opposition...especially at a personal level is no way to go through life Whether it's one person's blog or a writer with a vendetta from the 'Publication' Gawker or the 'Publication' 'National Inquirer they are not known for journalistic integrity. You said it yourself....the celebrity gossip blog Gawker whores for clicks. So yeah, Gawker isn't the same as a one man blog with political bias. But it isn't a model of journalistic integrity either.....and they don't care as long as they get the eyeballs.

And I'm not sure which is sleazier...A right wing LVA poster linking to some political blog with anonymous sources that he thinks is true; a left wing LVA poster linking to some Celebrity Gossip 'Publication' with anonymous sources that he thinks is true...but doesn't really care as long as it attacks 'Faux News'...Or Harry Reid on the Senate Floor smearing Mitt Romney with anonymous allegations' that he knew weren't true. Make no mistake...they're all sleazy...and both sides do it....The politics of personal destruction.


nevermind.
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Originally posted by: malibber2
Alan as I said once before it is true they have the court transcripts. The source told them about the case and they went and got the transcripts.
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: forkushV
No, Gawker isn't a blogger, it's a fairly popular publication. No, a blogger didn't post an anonymous rumor, a publication (Gawker) cited an anonymous source. You know, like Deep Throat in the Watergate saga.

Both sides do it? Bullshit.

So...Forkush equates the Gawker Celebrity Gossip blog with The Washington Post...
No, I was simply trying to explain to you the difference between a lone blogger and Gawker, a lone blogger posting gossip and a publication citing an anonymous source, and a lone partisan blogger versus an non-partisan publication.

I guess I should have typed slower.

Next I suppose I'll have to explain the meaning of the word "slander" to you.

Citing anonymous and questionable sources to attack political opposition...especially at a personal level is no way to go through life Whether it's one person's blog or a writer with a vendetta from the 'Publication' Gawker or the 'Publication' 'National Inquirer they are not known for journalistic integrity. You said it yourself....the celebrity gossip blog Gawker whores for clicks. So yeah, Gawker isn't the same as a one man blog with political bias. But it isn't a model of journalistic integrity either.....and they don't care as long as they get the eyeballs.

And I'm not sure which is sleazier...A right wing LVA poster linking to some political blog with anonymous sources that he thinks is true; a left wing LVA poster linking to some Celebrity Gossip 'Publication' with anonymous sources that he thinks is true...but doesn't really care as long as it attacks 'Faux News'...Or Harry Reid on the Senate Floor smearing Mitt Romney with anonymous allegations' that he knew weren't true. Make no mistake...they're all sleazy...and both sides do it....The politics of personal destruction.



Just because there was an allegation in court doesn't make it true, Sheesh. There's usually lots of mudslinging in in nasty divorces, don't you think?, or do you think everything said in all divorce cases(or other cases for that matter) is true verbatim? nah, I'm sure there's never been any stretching of the truth if not flat out mistruths just because it's said in court.

Anyway, I'm not defending the guy, if he did it, he did it, I don't really care. I'm just saying one side is defending this as gospel when I'm sure it probably isn't, it didn't come from a credible source at all. The Gawker? Really?

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