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forkushV
forkushV
May 25, 2015
1:33pm
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Originally posted by: forkushV
b;ah, blah, blah, . . . DonDiego tells us to google his claim about higher Obamacare premiums. Which means you got nothing DonDiego - and I can prove it.

Umm, the 2015 sign-up period is over, and the extra 3-months added to try to increase enrollment for 2015 is over too. [n.b.For the record during the 3-month extended enrollment the State of Hawaii signed up exactly zero extra applicants, . . . that's zero, nada, naught, zip, squat, none!]

In any case the anticipated premium increases are for 2016...
Ooh, is this anything like the anticipated death panels? The anticipated soaring costs? The anticipated doctors quitting in droves? The anticipated Insurance Company Bailout? The anticipated inadequate coverage?

DonDiego, have any of your predictions ever come true?

Meanwhile about 10% of our citizens are covered one way or another through the Obamacare law, junk insurance has been outlawed, our neighbors with pre-existing conditions can get coverage, and the only age group that it is unpopular with are members of the Worst Generation, our selfish seniors who already get national health insurance and don't want to share.

DonDiego, I'm sure you'll be so happy if there are huge increases next year, and then you can write about it. But admit it, your track record on this sucks.

Don
Don
May 25, 2015
6:46pm
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Originally posted by: forkushV
Ooh, is this anything like the anticipated death panels? The anticipated soaring costs? The anticipated doctors quitting in droves? The anticipated Insurance Company Bailout? The anticipated inadequate coverage?

DonDiego, have any of your predictions ever come true?

Meanwhile about 10% of our citizens are covered one way or another through the Obamacare law, junk insurance has been outlawed, our neighbors with pre-existing conditions can get coverage, and the only age group that it is unpopular with are members of the Worst Generation, our selfish seniors who already get national health insurance and don't want to share.

DonDiego, I'm sure you'll be so happy if there are huge increases next year, and then you can write about it. But admit it, your track record on this sucks.
Poor old DonDiego has not made a prediction. He cited the news that several States are requesting significant increases in premiums for next year. That's all.
n.b. DonDiego doesn't collect the data on The Obamacare himself. He doesn't have the time. And he doesn't make stuff up. That's why he includes references. He relies on the free press to inform him of such matters.

__DonDiego doesn't think he ever employed the term "death panels".

__DonDiego does anticipate rising costs. Umm, . . . that's what requests for premium increases reflect.

__DonDiego personally knows of only one doctor who has quit; whether he was in a drove or not doesn't concern poor old DonDiego. forkushV should be happy that teechur and DonDiego found another family doctor in short order.

__If the insurance companies do get significant premium increases, . . . that is sorta like a "bailout"; that's how the Law was intended to work by those who wrote it. DonDiego doesn't find any of this surprising or unusual. The insurance companies wrote The Obamacare Law. Heckfire, the then Speaker of the House informed everyone "We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it." The insurance companies already knew what was in it.
Did forkushV think the insurance companies are altruistic?

__Coverage varies based upon price, . . . just as it always has.

__Re: Obamacare Popularity
"Just 37% of Likely U.S. Voters believe the government should require every American to buy or obtain health insurance, according to the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. That’s down four points from February and the lowest level of support since December 2013. Fifty-two percent (52%) now oppose government-mandated health insurance. It’s the first time opposition has risen above 50% since last summer and the highest this finding has been in 17 months. Eleven percent (11%) remain undecided."
Ref: Rasmussen - 11 May 2015

forkushV
forkushV
May 26, 2015
12:02am
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: forkushV
Ooh, is this anything like the anticipated death panels? The anticipated soaring costs? The anticipated doctors quitting in droves? The anticipated Insurance Company Bailout? The anticipated inadequate coverage?

DonDiego, have any of your predictions ever come true?

Meanwhile about 10% of our citizens are covered one way or another through the Obamacare law, junk insurance has been outlawed, our neighbors with pre-existing conditions can get coverage, and the only age group that it is unpopular with are members of the Worst Generation, our selfish seniors who already get national health insurance and don't want to share.

DonDiego, I'm sure you'll be so happy if there are huge increases next year, and then you can write about it. But admit it, your track record on this sucks.
Poor old DonDiego has not made a prediction. He cited the news that several States are requesting significant increases in premiums for next year. That's all.
n.b. DonDiego doesn't collect the data on The Obamacare himself. He doesn't have the time. And he doesn't make stuff up. That's why he includes references. He relies on the free press to inform him of such matters.

__DonDiego doesn't think he ever employed the term "death panels".

__DonDiego does anticipate rising costs. Umm, . . . that's what requests for premium increases reflect.

__DonDiego personally knows of only one doctor who has quit; whether he was in a drove or not doesn't concern poor old DonDiego. forkushV should be happy that teechur and DonDiego found another family doctor in short order.

__If the insurance companies do get significant premium increases, . . . that is sorta like a "bailout"; that's how the Law was intended to work by those who wrote it. DonDiego doesn't find any of this surprising or unusual. The insurance companies wrote The Obamacare Law. Heckfire, the then Speaker of the House informed everyone "We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it." The insurance companies already knew what was in it.
Did forkushV think the insurance companies are altruistic?

__Coverage varies based upon price, . . . just as it always has.

__Re: Obamacare Popularity
"Just 37% of Likely U.S. Voters believe the government should require every American to buy or obtain health insurance, according to the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. That’s down four points from February and the lowest level of support since December 2013. Fifty-two percent (52%) now oppose government-mandated health insurance. It’s the first time opposition has risen above 50% since last summer and the highest this finding has been in 17 months. Eleven percent (11%) remain undecided."
Ref: Rasmussen - 11 May 2015

Rasmussen Polls are great - just ask Vice President Sarah Palin! But how about we rely on a non-partisan poll that isn't run by a Fox contributor? The only age group opposed to Obamacare isn't eligible for it, America's Worst Generation, our selfish seniors who already have national health care and don't want to share.




And that "Obamacare will pay for itself" line of yours. You're thinking of the Iraq War aren't you? In any case, the news is good.

jphelan
jphelan
May 26, 2015
12:16am
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Originally posted by: alanleroy


Thank you for offering your sensible opinion, DonDiego. Once again the LVA's 'Elder Statesman' brings additional clarity and evenhandedness to the conversation.


Did alanleroy, just call DonDiego OLD?


hoops2
hoops2
May 26, 2015
12:45am
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The Rasmussen poll that forky derides is in line with the RCP average. forky continues to quote kaiser foundation which has been a cheerleader for obamacare since it's inception.

Many of the state exchanges, (such as Hawaii & Oregon which are getting out of the business) are losing money & will need an influx of cash.

Remember when obama said that premiums would go down
forkushV
forkushV
May 26, 2015
6:35am
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Originally posted by: hoops2
The Rasmussen poll that forky derides...
You betcha! - although Vice President Sarah Palin might disagree.

But Rasmussen doesn't ask about the ACA or Obamacare. It asks whether "the government should require every American to buy or obtain health insurance." So yes, that is Obamacare:
  • minus the premium subsidies,
  • minus the prohibition of discriminating because of pre-existing conditions,
  • minus the expansion of Medicaid,
  • minus the requirement that insurance companies spend much of their revenue on actual health care.
  • minus allowing young adults to stay on their parent's policies,
  • minus outlawing junk insurance policies...and so on.

    And that, kids, is how Scott Rasmussen get's to be a contributor on Fox News! That poll question is an embarrassment; DonDiego should have stuck with "google it."
    • jatki
    jatki
    May 26, 2015
    6:56am
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    Originally posted by: jphelan
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    Originally posted by: alanleroy


    Thank you for offering your sensible opinion, DonDiego. Once again the LVA's 'Elder Statesman' brings additional clarity and evenhandedness to the conversation.


    Did alanleroy, just call DonDiego OLD?




    No,no,no..he called him "elder" Bob
    chafraho
    chafraho
    May 26, 2015
    9:26am
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    It's a good thing that the original post was satire. I guess you have to be able to percieve the joke before you can take it.
    Don
    Don
    May 26, 2015
    10:40pm
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    Originally posted by: jatki99
    No,no,no..he called him "elder" Bob
    "Elder" is a term applicable to old persons in a good way, . . . similar to "old timer" or "pop", . . . .as opposed to, f'rinstance, "crank", "codger" "old fart", and "coffin dodger".

    DonDiego appreciates alanleroy's kindness.

    Related:
    Old People Smell: "[The odor associated with elderly males] may act as a sign of the "good genes" that have allowed a male to live into old age, making him more attractive to females."
    hoops2
    hoops2
    May 26, 2015
    11:37pm
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    Simple consistent question that every poll in the RCP average has been asking since the passage of the law

    "Do you have a very favorable, somewhat favorable, somewhat unfavorable or very unfavorable impression of the new health care law?"

    How about these questions
    1- Have your insurance premiums gone down as obama promised - mine have
    2- Have your deductables gone up since the passage of the law - mine has
    3- Do you think the fact that the state exchanges are going bankrupt is good? - No
    4- The requirement that insurance companies spend much of their revenue on actual health care. The question
    is how much of a refund did you receive from your insurance company? - I received about $80
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