OUCH!

Market's taken a beating since yeterday. Is this the end of the run? I started lightening up a little week and half or so ago, wish I had lightened a little more. Any predictions on tomorrow and thereafter ..?

J

Roller coaster market.
"The market" is pretty much independent of the usual forces which determine stock prices, . . . like earnings, and growth, and price-to-earnings measures and stuff like that. It has gone up on the low-interest-rates engineered by the Fed purchasing most new US-bond-debt for the past few years, . . .in expectation that these low rates would stimulate the economy.

Unfortunately, the low interest rates have not provided the oomph normally associated with a recovery. And the Fed Chairman yesterday announced that if unemployment falls to 6.5% in the next few months, the Fed will begin to step out of the market for bonds, . . . and let "real" purchasers get back in. He did not say they are doing this now, . . . or even in the near future. But saying the Fed is thinking about buying fewer US bonds was enough to rock the markets.

The Fed buying fewer US bonds would result in rising interest rates. And higher interest rates suggest less economic growth. The 10-year Treasury Note interest was 2.10% on Monday and closed today at 2.40%.

So those getting out of the markets are anticipating a slowdown and accompanying rising interest rates. And the markets fall.

DonDiego got out of the markets 6-to-18-months early in 2007/08; he felt good about it. It looks like he waited too long this time. If the Fed and others get out there and trumpet that everything suggested yesterday is way in the future, there may be a recovery. DonDiego'll get out then. If they don't DonDiego'll try to get out on any slight rallies in the near future.

It was better when one could find quality, profitable companies to invest in without having to give Government policy decisions top priority.

The two fastest growing segments of the economy lately have been student-loan-debt and the disability-insurance rolls. It's tough to make any money off of those. DonDiego notices that the disability payments add to the National debt right now and the student loans will soon, when there are massive defaults and/or "forgiveness".

DonDiego sees no good outcome.


The Fed's signal to end their stimulus is based upon their observation of a recovering economy that no longer requires it. And most of the big investment firms agree judging by their forecasts for the 2nd half of 2013 and 2014. So you weigh the growth of the economy minus the lack of Fed stimuous which the Fed signaled would be gradual and in with a wary eye towards its effects.

We've had massive periods of prosperity in the past with interest rates well over 6%. Even the most aggressive models of Fed tightening dont put it anywhere in that ballpark so anticipating recession based upon that metric seems irrational to me.

Dividend stocks led tha rally up. The last few weeks they've been spanked. And they are looking really sweet to me right now.






PS - Beware of the perma-bears. These are the people who complain about fixed income getting screwed when interest rates are low ...and then complain about the stock market getting screwed when interest rates are high.
Peter Schiff is one of several financial advisors/commentators who got poor old DonDiego out of the market before the drop of 2008. A video summary of his predictions in 2006-07, in which most other commentators not only disagreed but actually laughed at him, is available on YouTube:Peter Schiff was Right. [Laughter commences around minute 3:30.]

After this weeks market drop he expressed his current opinion, which is basically that Mr. Bernanke and the Federal Reserve will not slow or cease their purchases of US Government bonds and mortgage securities, because a precipitous collapse would follow: Tapering the Taper Talk

As DonDiego posted earlier, when investing in the stock market is based upon Government policy instead of corporate fundamentals, . . . it is not a healthy market.
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Originally posted by: jatki99
Any predictions on tomorrow and thereafter ..?


It will fluctuate.
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
Peter Schiff is one of several financial advisors/commentators who got poor old DonDiego out of the market before the drop of 2008. A video summary of his predictions in 2006-07, in which most other commentators not only disagreed but actually laughed at him, is available on YouTube:Peter Schiff was Right. [Laughter commences around minute 3:30.]

After this weeks market drop he expressed his current opinion, which is basically that Mr. Bernanke and the Federal Reserve will not slow or cease their purchases of US Government bonds and mortgage securities, because a precipitous collapse would follow: Tapering the Taper Talk

As DonDiego posted earlier, when investing in the stock market is based upon Government policy instead of corporate fundamentals, . . . it is not a healthy market.


Remember the perma-bears I spoke of two posts ago? Enter Peter Schiff

He has never been bullish on the US economy and been ofering the same doom and gloom forecast for years. Broken clocks are right every day at 12:00. Peter Schiff if right every time we enter a recession. I sincerely hope Don Diego didn't follow Schiff's advice in the wake of 2009 when the stock market skyrocked. I believe Schiff continued his usual forecast calling for a double dip recession tellig his investors to hoard gold
This drop is 1 year too late. Cost me $110,000 when I shorted all the indexes!
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
DonDiego sees no good outcome.

DonDiego, This Very Forum, April 2011: "INFLATION ARRIVES!!!"

US Inflation, Monthly Year-Over-Year, CPI-U: All Items (1982-84=100)


Decrease in Inflation Since DonDiego Announced It Had Arrived: 54.2%

Percent of Investors Who Would Be Wise to Pay Serious Attention to DonDiego's Economic Vision: 0
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