Penalties handed out to four Saint Players. Vilma suspended whole season.

Four suspended for Saints’ bounty program, Vilma for all of 2012
Posted by Michael David Smith on May 2, 2012, 11:57 AM EDT

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has lowered the hammer on four New Orleans Saints players who were involved in the team’s bounty scandal, with Jonathan Vilma leading the way and getting one of the most significant suspensions in NFL history.

Vilma has been banished for all of 2012, effective immediately and through the Super Bowl, for his role in the bounty scandal. Vilma reportedly put $10,000 cash on the table in the team’s meeting room and said the cash would go to anyone who could knock Brett Favre out of the NFC Championship Game in January of 2010.

Anthony Hargrove, who’s now with the Packers, was given an eight-game suspension after the NFL said that he, too, targeted Favre in the NFC Championship Game. The NFL says that Hargrove eventually admitted his role in the team’s bounty program, but that at first “Hargrove also actively obstructed the league’s 2010 investigation into the program by being untruthful to investigators.”

Will Smith was suspended four games. The NFL says he worked with former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams in setting up the bounty program.

Browns linebacker Scott Fujita is no longer in New Orleans, but he was given a three-game suspension for his role in the bounty program when he played for the team.

“It is the obligation of everyone, including the players on the field, to ensure that rules designed to promote player safety, fair play, and the integrity of the game are adhered to and effectively and consistently enforced,” Goodell said in the league’s statement. “Respect for the men that play the game starts with the way players conduct themselves with each other on the field.”

Goodell has said he believes players were not just participants at the behest of Williams, but were actively encouraging and celebrating the bounties. The NFL Players’ Association has signaled that it does not agree with Goodell’s assessment. Vilma, Hargrove, Smith and Fujita all have the right to appeal.
Hammer time on those sinners!
Interesting. Sinners. Seriously?

Bounty's are bad. "Aggressive" players like Suh getting millions in salary is good?
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Originally posted by: ken2v
Not the first. Won't be the last. Some Saints will be scapegoats, Goddell will continue to work for the billionaire owners. The union will look after the union.


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Originally posted by: ken2v
Interesting. Sinners. Seriously?

Bounty's are bad. "Aggressive" players like Suh getting millions in salary is good?


Assuming you meant bounties. Suh was suspended without pay last year for his actions so you aren't making any valid point in referencing him.



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Originally posted by: JM2300
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Originally posted by: ken2v
Not the first. Won't be the last. Some Saints will be scapegoats, Goddell will continue to work for the billionaire owners. The union will look after the union.




Note: This quote was fished from the Seau thread.
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Originally posted by: Liondownnow
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Originally posted by: ken2v
Interesting. Sinners. Seriously?

Bounty's are bad. "Aggressive" players like Suh getting millions in salary is good?


Assuming you meant bounties. Suh was suspended without pay last year for his actions so you aren't making any valid point in referencing him.


Look, I'm not hitting your home boy. I'd have said Jack Tatum but woulda lost a few here.

Here's the point, there's a fine line that at some level is an absurd distinction. Guys are trained, drafted, paid millions to big mean and fast and tough. They are not told to specifically go for an ACL or a head -- or so the powers that be naively tell us -- but the raison d'etre of football is to "impart one's physical will on another." The hesitance to take on PEDs by the league and the players--a privacy issue? Please. The NFL cannot exist without violence, and the players know that going in, so you kinda end up getting what you deserve. But the NFL, players, media, fans, cannot revel in all these massive collisions and pretend it is just a game, and then turn all ashed-faced puritanical if a guy who makes $10m/year to crush people might've been paid an additional $10,000 because he crushed a particular person.
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Originally posted by: ken2v
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Originally posted by: Liondownnow
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Originally posted by: ken2v
Interesting. Sinners. Seriously?

Bounty's are bad. "Aggressive" players like Suh getting millions in salary is good?


Assuming you meant bounties. Suh was suspended without pay last year for his actions so you aren't making any valid point in referencing him.


Look, I'm not hitting your home boy. I'd have said Jack Tatum but woulda lost a few here.

Here's the point, there's a fine line that at some level is an absurd distinction. Guys are trained, drafted, paid millions to big mean and fast and tough. They are not told to specifically go for an ACL or a head -- or so the powers that be naively tell us -- but the raison d'etre of football is to "impart one's physical will on another." The hesitance to take on PEDs by the league and the players--a privacy issue? Please. The NFL cannot exist without violence, and the players know that going in, so you kinda end up getting what you deserve. But the NFL, players, media, fans, cannot revel in all these massive collisions and pretend it is just a game, and then turn all ashed-faced puritanical if a guy who makes $10m/year to crush people might've been paid an additional $10,000 because he crushed a particular person.


What is the old saying - "It's not personal it's just business"

Bounties are personal since 10K was offered to "take-out" specific players. Suh (for example) made an idiot move in the moment but didn't target the guy in pre-game. The violent hits and cheap shots are hard to control but pre-game bounties on specific players is not right. There is a big difference.
I didn't say it is correct. But making bounties out to be evil incarnate while fans obsess with a most violent of "games" is just a bit rationalizing. That's all I'm saying. I sure there's NEVER been a defensive player who thought before kickoff -- "I'm paid to win games and hit people. I'm getting Favre. If he goes down, we win." -- prior to the advent of Bountygate. I'm sure of it. Uh huh. It's cool for millions but not for thousands.
Amazing how they got the guys that aren't even playing with the Saints any longer.
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