PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker shut down by FBI

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Originally posted by: Bradr19
I'm a teaparty kind of guy. The Government that governs least governs best.
Afghanistan, Somalia, and Chad await. Get packin', yer headin' to zero government heaven!
The .com website has the fed notice, but the .net site does not.

Sorry for the delay in posting, I had to pay the state of Ohio some tax money.
The ".net" sites are free play sites.

The four poker sites "raided" by the Federals and which had their domain names seized or blocked are still running.

They all have "alternate" url's as follows:

Full Tilt Poker: https://www.fulltiltpoker.co.uk

Poker Stars: https://www.pokerstars.eu

Absolute Poker: https://www.absolutepoker.eu/

Ultimate Bet Poker:, https://www.ubpoker.eu/


Unfortunately, US Players will be stopped from playing cash games, although they will be able to access the sites and other features.

It was primarily the payment processors who had assets seized. Transferring money is probably not happening, cash outs, or funding accounts.

There are still other poker sites that will accept US Players.

Cereus (although they also own AB & UB)
Bodog
and several others.

Playing poker online is NOT illegal in many US states. It is the money aspect under the UIGIEA, that has created the current climate.

Basically, they government is after those "money launderers", the payment processors. Indictments against some of the owners was because they have knowledge of the wrongdoings and encouraged it.

Eventually, those with funded accounts will most likely be able to get their money back, eventually. When something similar happened to Netteller, it took about 18 months to "cash out". No reason for me to think it will be any quicker this time around, and perhaps slower.

Hope this helps clear some of the speculation and misinformation being generated.


There are many great poker news and information site, and several excellent forums. Those are probably much better places to get up to date information about the current state of affairs of online poker.

I reccomend:

Twoplutwo.com forums for anything and everything "poker".

I also encourage using Google and searching for "poker news" for other sites with information. It will be up to you to separate the four flush from the true flush.












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Originally posted by: RoadTrip
The ".net" sites are free play sites.

Playing poker online is NOT illegal in many US states. It is the money aspect under the UIGIEA, that has created the current climate.

Basically, they government is after those "money launderers", the payment processors. Indictments against some of the owners was because they have knowledge of the wrongdoings and encouraged it.

Eventually, those with funded accounts will most likely be able to get their money back, eventually. When something similar happened to Netteller, it took about 18 months to "cash out". No reason for me to think it will be any quicker this time around, and perhaps slower.

Hope this helps clear some of the speculation and misinformation being generated.


There are many great poker news and information site, and several excellent forums. Those are probably much better places to get up to date information about the current state of affairs of online poker.

I reccomend:

Twoplutwo.com forums for anything and everything "poker".

I also encourage using Google and searching for "poker news" for other sites with information. It will be up to you to separate the four flush from the true flush.


Yes, they are the free play area. However, unless they changed something, you should be able to play cash games.

2+2 is a good one, I'd also recommend railbirds.com and cardschat.com. Both are quite layed back sites, where 2+2 can get a bit harsh sometimes.

The current law tries to punish the banks and other sites that take in deposits and send back winnings to the states. Joe player is typically ok because they are after bigger fish, the poker companies.

I forgot to mention in my earlier post....


Currently, the four sites I gave links for NO LONGER ALLOW US PLAYERS TO PLAY CASH GAMES.

US Players can still access the sites, but internal filters will stop them from all cash games.

Other poker sites have also begun disallowing US Players, while a few are accepting them.

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Originally posted by: shlomo
Unbelievable. The Justice Department won't prosecute an open-and-shut case of voter intimidation by the Black Panthers, but they'll prosecute the online poker sites and screw hundreds of thousands of Americans out of doing something they love. Fortunately I didn't have much in there, about $150 each at both Stars and FTP, but FUCK THEM!

And yes I know the mods have this fetish about politics, but sorry kids, this is unavoidable due to the topic at hand and the convergence of law and gambling. The Dems had absolute power for two years and Barney Frank couldn't get the time of day from Pelosi... for those who dont follow this, Frank has been the online poker's biggest advocate. Normally my politics run the other way but at least the guy was stepping up for us cardplayers.

FUCK THEM! What ever happened to liberals being about liberty? Why not let people do what they want with their money?
I can't resist. Barney Frank, the clown who pretty much single handedly destroyed this country's economy by spearheading and supporting laws to ease mortgage standards so deadbeats like PokerWayne could overborrow and default on their notes. I see his thought process here, maybe the deadbeats can win at poker to pay their mortgage.
This country does not need online gambling, it needs to clean up the mess left by incompetant dopes like Barney Frank. The Dems had total control for quite a while, could have written ANY laws the wanted. They didn't. They have accomplished nothing, then they have the nads to cry about GE paying zero tax for 2010.

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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: Bradr19
I'm a teaparty kind of guy. The Government that governs least governs best.
Afghanistan, Somalia, and Chad await. Get packin', yer headin' to zero government heaven!


zero government heaven!

Zero government would be a hell of alot better than what we have now.
Let's get back to the Constitution and go from there.
Brad
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Originally posted by: Bradr19
zero government heaven!

Zero government would be a hell of alot better than what we have now.
Let's get back to the Constitution and go from there.
Brad


Yeah. Why let women vote, why let renters vote, lets keep the vast majority of the black population in slavery. Life was so much better then.
I see the latest fallout from this is that ESPN is going to cancel the showing of the WSOP.
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