"A Day Without Immigrants", . . .

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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
Why is Billy for the safeharboring of illegal immigrants who have committed horrific crimes? Why doesn't he want them deported back?



Polly want a cracker?
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Originally posted by: billryan
Most employers don't use it because it's very expensive. Not only must they pay a decent wage, they must house the workers and pay round trip transportation to and from Mexico. Using it also opens an employers books to the government, something most businesses don't want to do.
My cousins use a similar program for seasonal help for their resort on Cape Cod and it's a paperwork nightmare. Trump uses it for his Florida clubs, perhaps for others as well.
Much easier to hire a person off the books.
These Farmers aren't 'hiring a person off the books'. They use Farm Labor Contractors who are legitimately hiring farm workers. Unfortunately these farm workers use fake ID's and phony social security numbers.

H-2A Visa workers are not that much more expensive than using a Farm Labor Contractor who still has to pay minimum wage and the employer portions of Social Security and Medicare and make a profit too. I know lots of big farmers who use these Visa workers.

They'd all use it if E-Verify closed off their local source of illegal labor who use false identification and the absconded social security numbers of real American citizens.



It appeared everyone was at work. FYI, the 4 story building I work in has about 2 1/2 floors of folks from outside the US. (H1B)
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Originally posted by: billryan
I'm on my phone and can't cut and paste, but if you Google this question- Do immigrants commit more crimes than Americans, you will see the results.


Who gives a FLYING CRAP if immagrants commit more crimes, the bottom line is they DO commit crimes same as US citizens, why let criminals in or the more pertinent question, why let the criminals stay?

I don't expect a response here.

Better question:

What is the acceptable number of murders committed by illegal aliens?
According to a 2012 census study 87% of illegals with children are on welfare & 72% of legals with children are on welfare
Obama did a good job of getting the word out......................"Come and get it. Come to America for your right to free shit! Come and get it!"


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Originally posted by: hoops2
According to a 2012 census study 87% of illegals with children are on welfare & 72% of legals with children are on welfare


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Originally posted by: hoops2
According to a 2012 census study 87% of illegals with children are on welfare & 72% of legals with children are on welfare


No, it did not. An anti- immigration group took some census figures and extrapolated those figures. The census doesn't ask about immigration status. Without knowing what percentage of all Americans are receiving some form of welfare , the numbers are useless.

Well we all seem to have survived the 'Day without immigrants'. Maybe we should try a week to see how that goes.
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Originally posted by: IndyBoilerman
Obama did a good job of getting the word out......................"Come and get it. Come to America for your right to free shit! Come and get it!"


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Originally posted by: hoops2
According to a 2012 census study 87% of illegals with children are on welfare & 72% of legals with children are on welfare




According to a 2017 post - Hoops made up some uncited bullshit and posted it on a Las Vegas Message Board.

CNN : 5 myths about immigration
"Undocumented immigrants do not qualify for welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, and most other public benefits. Most of these programs require proof of legal immigration status and under the 1996 welfare law, even legal immigrants cannot receive these benefits until they have been in the United States for more than five years. "

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