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jphelan
jphelan
Dec 28, 2015
11:15pm
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Does the State Department need to compensate staff with Holiday pay when a batch of email messages is released on a Holiday like Christmas / New Year's Eve? If so, this is an unnecessary expense in addition to an attempt to avoid attention.
pjstroh
pjstroh
Dec 28, 2015
11:19pm
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
I don't believe that investigations should cease until attempts to hide the truth are circumvented. Just now the facts are becoming known, after many years of successfully thwarting the truth by Obama, Hillary and friends.

Why the hell would you stop an investigation that you are just now learning the facts?



Normally investigations are held for people who are accused of a crime. Nobody (most of all Boilerman) can tell us what crime Hillary committed that might be revealed in her emails. But they sure know it must be something. Its gotta be something! And not having a clue what that something is doesn't stop them from getting their blood pressure up over it.



Boilerman
Boilerman
Dec 28, 2015
11:49pm
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Holding "confidential" emails on a non-secure server is a crime. Investigation are also held in both private and public organizations when actions are suspected that could lead to a firing.

Boiler believes that it's prudent to learn if politics affected decisionmaking in Benghazi, which in turn caused the death of Americans. Furthermore, I believe that Obama and Clinton would only be stonewalling because they have something to hide.
snidely333
snidely333
Dec 29, 2015
12:56am
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Holding "confidential" emails on a non-secure server is a crime. Investigation are also held in both private and public organizations when actions are suspected that could lead to a firing.

Boiler believes that it's prudent to learn if politics affected decisionmaking in Benghazi, which in turn caused the death of Americans. Furthermore, I believe that Obama and Clinton would only be stonewalling because they have something to hide.


Please define what "non-secure" means. What type of security was Hillary's server lacking? Or is that just another term you throw around without understanding what it means or will you just deflect and tell me to research it myself.

alanleroy
alanleroy
Dec 29, 2015
1:39am
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Originally posted by: snidely333
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Holding "confidential" emails on a non-secure server is a crime. Investigation are also held in both private and public organizations when actions are suspected that could lead to a firing.

Boiler believes that it's prudent to learn if politics affected decision making in Benghazi, which in turn caused the death of Americans. Furthermore, I believe that Obama and Clinton would only be stonewalling because they have something to hide.


Please define what "non-secure" means. What type of security was Hillary's server lacking? Or is that just another term you throw around without understanding what it means or will you just deflect and tell me to research it myself.

Here's something you may find interesting...

Why Clinton's Private E-Mail Server was such a security fail.

The Wired article was written soon after the revelation of a private server. As technical details became clear, the vulnerability of that server was far worse than it described. They allowed Remote Desktop Connections directly from the Internet without using a VPN. Total Amateur Hour. None of the many businesses I work with allow those kinds of connections to their servers....and they don't contain any Top Secret e-mails.

Clinton Server Remote Access Risks

Now...was that illegal? Was it compromised? Was there any real breach that impacted National Security? I have no idea. At minimum, it does show bad judgment.
Boilerman
Boilerman
Dec 29, 2015
1:43am
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It depends on what the definition of is is.


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Originally posted by: snidely333
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Holding "confidential" emails on a non-secure server is a crime. Investigation are also held in both private and public organizations when actions are suspected that could lead to a firing.

Boiler believes that it's prudent to learn if politics affected decisionmaking in Benghazi, which in turn caused the death of Americans. Furthermore, I believe that Obama and Clinton would only be stonewalling because they have something to hide.


Please define what "non-secure" means. What type of security was Hillary's server lacking? Or is that just another term you throw around without understanding what it means or will you just deflect and tell me to research it myself.


snidely333
snidely333
Dec 29, 2015
2:18am
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: snidely333
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Holding "confidential" emails on a non-secure server is a crime. Investigation are also held in both private and public organizations when actions are suspected that could lead to a firing.

Boiler believes that it's prudent to learn if politics affected decision making in Benghazi, which in turn caused the death of Americans. Furthermore, I believe that Obama and Clinton would only be stonewalling because they have something to hide.


Please define what "non-secure" means. What type of security was Hillary's server lacking? Or is that just another term you throw around without understanding what it means or will you just deflect and tell me to research it myself.

Here's something you may find interesting...

Why Clinton's Private E-Mail Server was such a security fail.

The Wired article was written soon after the revelation of a private server. As technical details became clear, the vulnerability of that server was far worse than it described. They allowed Remote Desktop Connections directly from the Internet without using a VPN. Total Amateur Hour. None of the many businesses I work with allow those kinds of connections to their servers....and they don't contain any Top Secret e-mails.

Clinton Server Remote Access Risks

Now...was that illegal? Was it compromised? Was there any real breach that impacted National Security? I have no idea. At minimum, it does show bad judgment.


Thank you, Alan. Now, we're getting some facts. Hillary's server was not "non-secure". It had physical security and it had some logical security but probably not the full strength logical security it should have had. Until we get the actual facts we will never know what Hillary's server was lacking. And the way the investigation is moving, I'd say we will never know the truth.

Now, here is my conclusion: Staunch Republicans will never vote for Hillary so this server business is just another reason to hate on her. Staunch Democrats will ignore it as many will not understand what VPN and all that jazz means. The swing voters who decide the presidency will be stuck choosing between Hillary's stubbornness and "no-big-deal" attitude and the Conservatives hyperbole of "non-secure".

In the end, I fully agree with Alan, it shows bad judgment.
pjstroh
pjstroh
Dec 29, 2015
2:29am
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: snidely333
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Holding "confidential" emails on a non-secure server is a crime. Investigation are also held in both private and public organizations when actions are suspected that could lead to a firing.

Boiler believes that it's prudent to learn if politics affected decision making in Benghazi, which in turn caused the death of Americans. Furthermore, I believe that Obama and Clinton would only be stonewalling because they have something to hide.


Please define what "non-secure" means. What type of security was Hillary's server lacking? Or is that just another term you throw around without understanding what it means or will you just deflect and tell me to research it myself.

Here's something you may find interesting...

Why Clinton's Private E-Mail Server was such a security fail.

The Wired article was written soon after the revelation of a private server. As technical details became clear, the vulnerability of that server was far worse than it described. They allowed Remote Desktop Connections directly from the Internet without using a VPN. Total Amateur Hour. None of the many businesses I work with allow those kinds of connections to their servers....and they don't contain any Top Secret e-mails.

Clinton Server Remote Access Risks

Now...was that illegal? Was it compromised? Was there any real breach that impacted National Security? I have no idea. At minimum, it does show bad judgment.


Very well stated and cited. And all of this has been a very well known quantity for over a year - which affirms Hillary Clinton's judgement was in line with every internet age Secretary of State that preceded her... (not to mention Jeb Bush who had similar email practices as Governor of Florida). People can and should evaluate this instance of bad judgement - in addition to her worst example of bad judgement ( voting for the Iraq War).

But 12 months later there is still a multi million dollar investigation into the contents of her email because the birthers desperately need a new conspiracy to rationalize their anger since their other ones have been dispelled. They dont have an alternative to Obamacare; they dont have an alternative Middle East strategy; and they sure as hell dont want anyone to recognize the economic recovery they had to be dragged kicking and screaming through. So we get unbridled anger about Hillary's hidden emails. Enter Boilerman.







hoops2
hoops2
Dec 29, 2015
2:56am
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Clinton is the only person to keep her own server & it is illegal to keep classified info at home in an unsecured location.

Obamacare is collapsing as the exchanges go bankrupt, premiums go up & millions remain uninsured. The so called recovery is the slowest post recession in decades. 45+m people remain on food stamps & median income has gone down
pjstroh
pjstroh
Dec 29, 2015
3:12am
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Originally posted by: hoops2
Clinton is the only person to keep her own server & it is illegal to keep classified info at home in an unsecured location.

Obamacare is collapsing as the exchanges go bankrupt, premiums go up & millions remain uninsured. The so called recovery is the slowest post recession in decades. 45+m people remain on food stamps & median income has gone down


Plus your blood pressure is at record highs!

Keeping your email on a private server is no less secure than a Public ISP. Ask Sarah Palin how secure ISP accounts are. But I understand you need to a reason to stay angry. Did you hear Obama chipped one in on his last round of golf?
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