Republicans Create Economic Anarchy Again

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Boiler again posts a chart which shows spending as a percentage of GDP since 1960 for military spending, and federal giveaway spending. Would PJ be kind enough to explain why they have both increased under Obama?

https://dailysignal.com/2011/08/21/chart-of-the-week-defense-spending-has-declined-while-entitlement-spending-has-increased/


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
So here's the big question for our deficit hawks on the board:
The budget busting Bush tax cuts are set to expire at the end of this year. Do you support the fiscally responsible policy of letting them expire? Or do you demand we reinstate them with the same budget busting consequences they've had from day one?

I support the former. Where does Boilerman, Hoops, <other faux deficit hawks> stand?



How surprising, Boilerman couldn't simply answer the question. Instead he has to divert and come up with a different question. What's the matter Boiler? Don't want to admit you want to reinstate the Bush tax cuts at the end of this year?
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
So here's the big question for our deficit hawks on the board:
The budget busting Bush tax cuts are set to expire at the end of this year. Do you support the fiscally responsible policy of letting them expire? Or do you demand we reinstate them with the same budget busting consequences they've had from day one?

I support the former. Where does Boilerman, Hoops, <other faux deficit hawks> stand?


They should absolutely be reinstated along with reduced spending by our Fed Govt. Why is that such a hard concept for you to grasp PJ? I was all for shuttimg the dovt. down the first time over not wanting to raise the spending limit(I don't agree with it over planned parenthood). I knew once they raised it, it would become a routine thing to keep raising and guess what? Here we are at 19T. The Feds pull in ,what,3T in revenue? surely it seems the can make a budget out of that.
Before you go running and screaming on what we overspend on, I'll agree with you first. Milatary spendind should be the first to be whacked and not 5% either. I'm not talking soldiers pay or benefits either, the billions that's spent on the likes of Lockheed, Martin Marietta and such.

I've been clear about this many many many many many times. Boiler does not believe that we should raise taxes. Boiler believes that we should cut spending to balance the budget.

Every decade, most every government goes through an attempt to balance the budget if every time, we institute spending cuts and tax increases, that means that over a 200 year period we have 20 tax increases. This is unsustainable.

It's time to balance the budget with 100% spending cuts.




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Originally posted by: pjstroh
So here's the big question for our deficit hawks on the board:
The budget busting Bush tax cuts are set to expire at the end of this year. Do you support the fiscally responsible policy of letting them expire? Or do you demand we reinstate them with the same budget busting consequences they've had from day one?

I support the former. Where does Boilerman, Hoops, <other faux deficit hawks> stand?


I see. So, its okay to enact fiscally irresponsible policy that adds to our deficit and debt so long as Boilerman gives it his personal approval.

Thank you for the honesty. Now, please spare us from any future lectures about deficits and future generations being burdened by them.

You are incorrect. Boiler wishes that we cut taxes a little, and cut spending massively. That is very fiscally responsible.


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
I see. So, its okay to enact fiscally irresponsible policy that adds to our deficit and debt so long as Boilerman gives it his personal approval.

Thank you for the honesty. Now, please spare us from any future lectures about deficits and future generations being burdened by them.


"I see. So, its okay to enact fiscally irresponsible policy that adds to our deficit and debt so long as Boilerman gives it his personal approval"

We propose spending cuts to balance the budget. Why is that iresponsible? Does pj think that 100% of govt spending is necessary?
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Originally posted by: hoops2
"I see. So, its okay to enact fiscally irresponsible policy that adds to our deficit and debt so long as Boilerman gives it his personal approval"

We propose spending cuts to balance the budget. Why is that iresponsible? Does pj think that 100% of govt spending is necessary?


Can you show me the Republican plan that reconciles the Bush tax cuts with spending cuts? Is it in the same vault as their replacement plan for Obamacare?

The cuts expire in December. There will be a vote to reenact them in the absence of any spending cuts to pay for them....just like the last 15 years. I dont support that reenactment. And you do. And thats the difference between someone who legitimately cares about the debt and someone who only pretends to when they argue on a message board.
Every time the Republicans propose very modest spending cuts, Obama & company have a mini-stroke, declare that the country will collapse & refuse to discuss the issue. What is wrong with an across the board spending cut of 1%?
Boiler and Hoops give you their ideas, and you tell us that we're irresponsible because others have different ideas. How odd.


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: hoops2
"I see. So, its okay to enact fiscally irresponsible policy that adds to our deficit and debt so long as Boilerman gives it his personal approval"

We propose spending cuts to balance the budget. Why is that iresponsible? Does pj think that 100% of govt spending is necessary?


Can you show me the Republican plan that reconciles the Bush tax cuts with spending cuts? Is it in the same vault as their replacement plan for Obamacare?

The cuts expire in December. There will be a vote to reenact them in the absence of any spending cuts to pay for them....just like the last 15 years. I dont support that reenactment. And you do. And thats the difference between someone who legitimately cares about the debt and someone who only pretends to when they argue on a message board.


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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Boiler and Hoops give you their ideas, and you tell us that we're irresponsible because others have different ideas. How odd.



I point to history and actual upcoming events. You talk about hypothetical crap that never happened. I can care less about you ideal scenario - I care about your actualy record of supporting irresponsible policy


Fact: Republicans passed budget busting tax cuts in 2000 without reconciling them with spending cuts. And you supported it.

Fact: Those same tax cuts will be on the board again before December without spending cuts to reconcile them.. And you will support that too.

Am I wrong?

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