Rob Singer accepts the challenge.

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Originally posted by: friedmush
I haven't seen TomDoug since Rob Singer left for Hawaii a week ago. Welcome back.

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Not the least bit enamored with you, Singer. Just amused, that's all.

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Originally posted by: tomdoug

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Not the least bit enamored with you, Singer. Just amused, that's all.

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Aparrently you are, why are you not in a casino making easy money? Instead you are sitting at your laptop waiting for a post from me, you could be making easy money playing VP.......

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Not the least bit enamored with you, Singer. Just amused, that's all.

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Aparrently you are, why are you not in a casino making easy money? Instead you are sitting at your laptop waiting for a post from me, you could be making easy money playing VP.......

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Friedmush's been known to do this, i.e. make easy money playing VP . . .

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Originally posted by: friedmush
Not the least bit enamored with you, Singer. Just amused, that's all.

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Aparrently you are, why are you not in a casino making easy money? Instead you are sitting at your laptop waiting for a post from me, you could be making easy money playing VP.......

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Friedmush's been known to do this, i.e. make easy money playing VP . . .

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Then why is he not in a casino playing video poker instead of just talking about it. It amazes me how AP'ers talk of such a sure thing but yet do not believe in their system enough to do it for a living. Afterall, the math says you have an advantage, you cannot lose.

Also, my IP address is Smithfield, Va. A long way from where Singer may be. Ask Anthony, he has my permission to give my location. We slaughter pigs here.

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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Arc, again you are missing the point. Singer doesnt care how many hands or how long he plays. he plays until he has a net win of $2500. If he gets a royal on a $1 game in the first five minutes of play, his "system" tells him to leave.

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No, I didn't miss anything. Just because a person leaves one day changes nothing for the next time they play. It's no different than if they kept playing the previous time. That's why long term statistics apply to Singer just like they do to everyone esle. Spouting nonsense cannot change that fact.

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A lot of Singer's so-called system is nothing more than "money management of wins." And there is a lot to be said for that. He gets up and leaves when he hits his goal. How can you argue with that??

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And he sits there putting money in the machine if he doesn't. Just like everyone else. There's nothing to "argue" about, I am simply providing you information so you don't confuse yourself any more than you already have. How many times does it take for you to understand it makes NO DIFFERENCE if he leaves or stays unless he quits FOR LIFE.

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His "special plays" are there to improve his chances for a big win so he doesn't have to suffer the grind.

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Show me mathematically how they improve his chances of a "big win". You are falling for the con. I guess there's one born every minute after all.

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Look at Dancer's new column:

"My game of choice was going to be two hours on 25¢ Hundred Play 8/5 Bonus Poker (99.17%). Playing $100,000 costs $830 in equity, offset by $250 in free play, adding up to $580 in the hole." And then he writes: "My expected machine loss of $830 on the machine, however, turned out to be $8,470."

Oh yeah, advantage play is really great.

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If you knew how much Singer has lost over his life ... Well, you're never going to because he won't tell you. He did lose his entire 6 figure inheritance and had to file bankruptcy. What does that tell you.

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Arc, let me ask you: how many times have you been ahead, but didnt cash out and kept playing only to be a net loser on the session? Would you be better off today had you cashed out at a "set win goal" and come back another day with those wins in the bank?

I dont know about you,but there must have been a hundred times in my life that had I quit when I was up a couple of thousand I would be much better off today on my total win/loss record.

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Singer says he is not playing for the long term.

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He has played his so-called system for around 10 years now and over 300 sessions. Seems he has already played as much or more than most players do in their lives. Another example of what Singer says is different than what he does.

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What do you care? You are making money hand over fist right?

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Singer says he is not playing for the long term.

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He has played his so-called system for around 10 years now and over 300 sessions. Seems he has already played as much or more than most players do in their lives. Another example of what Singer says is different than what he does.

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What do you care? You are making money hand over fist right?

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I keep winning ... yes. I won over $400 today. But that has nothing to do with the discussion. You do understand this is a discussion, don't you?

So, why do you care? Seems we have a little pot ... kettle going on.

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