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?s about continuous shuffle on Black Jack tables

cyndeeta

Jul 27, 2010
6:13am

I have read mention of continuous shuffle on these boards. How are they used and how do you identify BJ tables that do use them?

KarenTN

Jul 27, 2010
6:22am

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IMO, unless you are counting, the only disadvantage is that more hands per hour are dealt when the cards are shuffled by machine and therefore more hands are dealt per hour and you will theoretically lose more per hour. The cards are being shuffled continuously, the dealer will 'feed' the machine after a few hands are dealt, which puts those cards back in the deck. You never have a fresh deck.

The Continuous Shuffle machine is pretty easy to spot, because you won't have a full shoe in the shoe, and you will see the dealer put cards back into the machine every few hands.

cyndeeta

Jul 27, 2010
7:07am

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Thanks, Karen.

Is that why I sometimes see them dealing from a shoe when it looks like only two decks in play? That always looks funny to me.

BTW, I don’t count cards, so it doesn’t matter to me. I just thought they may have nicer double down, split and double after split rules on continuous shuffle games. Anybody know if that’s true?

Boilerman

Jul 27, 2010
9:20am

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It's a black machine that sits on the third base side of the table. It's about the size of a shoe box, but rounded on the top. You can't miss it when you see it.

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Originally posted by: cyndeeta
Thanks, Karen.

Is that why I sometimes see them dealing from a shoe when it looks like only two decks in play? That always looks funny to me.

BTW, I don’t count cards, so it doesn’t matter to me. I just thought they may have nicer double down, split and double after split rules on continuous shuffle games. Anybody know if that’s true?

doubledown78

Jul 27, 2010
11:58am

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Assuming you are not counting, I believe the Wizard of Odds says that it actually increases your edge very slightly, but not enough to make up for the increase in hands dealt per hour.

bilbo b

Jul 28, 2010
1:52am

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If you're talking about the plastic dealing shoe, it may be a two deck game, in which case they will have two decks in that shoe (although the cut card will not allow the decks to be fully exhausted before they take the rest of the cards and place them with the cards from the discard rack and put them into the automatic shuffler where two more decks, generally of a different color, are already shuffled, and swap them out.) The same system works with two sets of six decks in a six deck game.

drmilled

Jul 28, 2010
2:43am

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Keep this in mind - the casinos did not decide to use these machines to help you win more.

KarenTN

Jul 28, 2010
3:05am

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Originally posted by: bilbo b

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Originally posted by: cyndeeta
Thanks, Karen.

Is that why I sometimes see them dealing from a shoe when it looks like only two decks in play? That always looks funny to me.

BTW, I don’t count cards, so it doesn’t matter to me. I just thought they may have nicer double down, split and double after split rules on continuous shuffle games. Anybody know if that’s true?

No, you are talking about the automatic shuffler. She was asking about continuous shufflers. The difference is that with the automatic shuffler, they don't put the cards in until the shoe (2 decks or 6 decks or whatever) have been played. You still get a fresh shoe.

With the continuous shuffler, the dealer may deal 5 hands or so, then put the discards into the shuffler. You never ever start with a full shoe with this one. makes it impossible to count, if you are a counter

knagl

Jul 28, 2010
8:13am

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Here's a couple of thousand of words:

For anyone interested, here's an interesting look inside one of the machines.

bilbo b

Jul 29, 2010
2:01am

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Originally posted by: KarenTN

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Originally posted by: bilbo b
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Originally posted by: cyndeeta
Thanks, Karen.

Is that why I sometimes see them dealing from a shoe when it looks like only two decks in play? That always looks funny to me.

BTW, I don’t count cards, so it doesn’t matter to me. I just thought they may have nicer double down, split and double after split rules on continuous shuffle games. Anybody know if that’s true?

If you're talking about the plastic dealing shoe, it may be a two deck game, in which case they will have two decks in that shoe (although the cut card will not allow the decks to be fully exhausted before they take the rest of the cards and place them with the cards from the discard rack and put them into the automatic shuffler where two more decks, generally of a different color, are already shuffled, and swap them out.) The same system works with two sets of six decks in a six deck game.

Perhaps I misunderstood her . . . she mentioned a shoe that looked like it had two decks. Do they actually use a shoe with the machines you're referring to or do they deal directly out of the shuffler? Thank you for the info.

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