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Originally posted by: marcisdave
I know a person who worked for Ford myself. His name is my DAD. And yes, he was a member of the union. He worked for Ford Stamping Plant for 35 years, in some of the worst, most harsh conditions I have ever seen. The factory was NOT air conditioned, and temps inside during the summer would hover around 120 degrees (and that is not the heat index) A daily 90 mile commute, coupled with lots of mandatory overtime, and 70 or 80 hour workweeks were common. And before the usual suspects wade in with the tired "but all he did was put screws into holes" BS, there was and is a hell of a lot more to that job that what some numbnuts like to imply.
When my father retired, he was making the grand total of $17 an hour. A far cry from the $93 an hour lie that members of a certain political affiliation like to spout out of their untruthful pieholes.
Yes, there were lots of years my Dad got overtime. Why ? Because Ford was selling the hell out of those SUV's, Taures's, and F-150s and management asked him to work that overtime......in order to meet the demands of the consumer.
Other years, not so much overtime. Maybe even 3 or 4 week layoffs. What did my Dad do during those layoffs ? Got a part time job at a filling station, bowling alley, ect.... to keep his family fed and a roof over their head.
So before you (the usual suspects) start your union bashing, just remember that it's not all a bed of roses for workers in those union factories, contrary to what some "fair and balanced" fake news network claims.
Originally posted by: marcisdave
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Originally posted by: garthman83
I would have to agree with you there Money. I have certainly met quite a bit union auto workers in my life since I have lived in the midwest for over 15 years. I have certainly met some who were thankful for their job and worked hard everyday until they could retire. The unfortunate part is I have met more of them that think they somehow are owed that union job and do the least amount of work they can get away with. I know a guy who works for Ford and is in the union. He gets overtime every week and most of his day at "work" is in the factory and he is using his phone to be on facebook most of the day.
I know a person who worked for Ford myself. His name is my DAD. And yes, he was a member of the union. He worked for Ford Stamping Plant for 35 years, in some of the worst, most harsh conditions I have ever seen. The factory was NOT air conditioned, and temps inside during the summer would hover around 120 degrees (and that is not the heat index) A daily 90 mile commute, coupled with lots of mandatory overtime, and 70 or 80 hour workweeks were common. And before the usual suspects wade in with the tired "but all he did was put screws into holes" BS, there was and is a hell of a lot more to that job that what some numbnuts like to imply.
When my father retired, he was making the grand total of $17 an hour. A far cry from the $93 an hour lie that members of a certain political affiliation like to spout out of their untruthful pieholes.
Yes, there were lots of years my Dad got overtime. Why ? Because Ford was selling the hell out of those SUV's, Taures's, and F-150s and management asked him to work that overtime......in order to meet the demands of the consumer.
Other years, not so much overtime. Maybe even 3 or 4 week layoffs. What did my Dad do during those layoffs ? Got a part time job at a filling station, bowling alley, ect.... to keep his family fed and a roof over their head.
So before you (the usual suspects) start your union bashing, just remember that it's not all a bed of roses for workers in those union factories, contrary to what some "fair and balanced" fake news network claims.
I never said all union workers are bad. My father in law was a ford worker all his life too. The man always worked hard for his family too and was a good worker. Like I said before there are hard honest workers who are union, BUT there are also several one of them who are overpaid and do little work. NONE of them are only making $17/hr either. A lot of them do work in hard working condition, but I can also list many other jobs where the conditions are just as bad and those people are making less money. Overtime is not ONLY given when times are good. The guy I was talking about has been getting overtime for years now. This includes the several years in which many didn't know if Ford would make it. Most current ford workers now that I now (around 10 people) all get somewhere around 90% pay during layoffs. They certainly don't need part time jobs during layoffs. Your Dad must have retired many years ago if he was only making $17/hr at his retirement. I have not heard what the average pay is now for a UAW worker, but a few years ago it was in the neighborhood of $30/hr.
