Sanctuary cities??

It seems that Chilli doesn't know everything about slaves either. While most were not compensated, some were.

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And they did do the dirty jobs that nobody else wanted to do under the circumstances. And they did contribute to the then-existing economy. I'm not supporting slavery in any sense. Just pointing out the absurdity of the "arguement". Get rid of a flag, but justify "sanctuary cities" with an economic rationalization. Seems like we've been around this block before, but it didn't make any difference to some.

Yes, sometimes a man bites a dog.

And sometimes a deer shoots a hunter.

But it's (at best) grossly disingeneous to claim that slaves had jobs, were paid, and spent that pay on goods and services. As your story makes plain, that was definitely not the dynamic that the American chattel slave experienced.



The man on the right is not working a job so he can get spending money.

Nope. But it's the reason this guy said this:

Whoops. Chilli just stepped in it again.

A rare option was "self-purchase" (the term itself revealing the base illogic of slavery). In 1839 almost half (42%) of the free blacks in Cincinnati, Ohio, had bought their freedom and were striving to create new lives while searching for and purchasing their own relatives.

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Whoops. Chilli just stepped in it again.

A rare option was "self-purchase" (the term itself revealing the base illogic of slavery). In 1839 almost half (42%) of the free blacks in Cincinnati, Ohio, had bought their freedom and were striving to create new lives while searching for and purchasing their own relatives.

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When I woke up today, I had no idea that someone would try to suggest that being a black chattel slave in 18th and early 19th century America was a "job", that such slaves were "paid," or that they used that "pay" to further the economy by purchasing goods and services.

Let alone that the apparent experience of four particular former slaves would be cited as a rule for what all slaves experienced.

This forum can be a surprising place.

I'm truly astonished at your tactics. You have obviously attended the Forkie school of diversion. 42% of all slaves that became free in Ohio, did it from being paid and buying their freedom. Does 42% only mean four particular former slaves in your book?

Is there an honest liberal on this board or are they all full of shit?

Well if you remove all those working for crap jobs those jobs would still have to be filled and the most likely way for that to happen is that those crap jobs would have to offer a higher wage, correct?, and if that happened those workers would be pumping more money into the local economy, correct? Oh wait a minute, then that would mean all those evil businesses and corporations might make a little less money then, that would be shameful.
Aren't you in the camp of raising the min. wage PJ?, oh yea, those on the left would rather it be govt. mandated. Getting rid of all the illegals working for crap pay would then let wages raise (or fall,doubtful) all on their own. Wouldn't everyone here like to see the citizens of this country really getting back to work and earning a decsnt living? I certainly would.
As far as all those illegals pumping so much money into the local economy you do know that a majority of them send whatever extra they have back home don't you. If all those jibs were filled at a higher wage AND they were all by citizens who lived there, the money would remain in the local economy. "Over night recession" PFFT... I'd venture to bet that w/in a year whatever local econmy would be much better off and the avg. hourly wage would go up. I would also venture to bet that it would help some those in the really high unemployed demographic(young black men comes to mind,isn't that rate like 35+%?).

I'd rather see a market driven rising min wage and more of this countrys citizens ,specially those just mentioned, working and making a decent wage than a country full of protected illegals.

Of course that was a bold and compassionate policy by President Reagan. Problem is it was a One Time Amnesty which was supposed to solve the problem of illegal immigration by securing the borders and preventing future illegal immigrants from obtaining work in the USA. Because the number of illegal immigrants has grown 5 fold since the last Amnesty, perhaps we should look for a different approach rather than repeat the mistakes of the past. Once burned twice shy.