Sanctuary cities??

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Originally posted by: forkushV
So for those of you who claimed or inferred that illegal immigrants commit more crimes, I'll just chalk your attitude up to profound ignorance on the subject. But next time you say it, you'll just be lying.


I'm sure those statistics will be comforting to the family of Kathryn Steinle. Of course you're missing the point entirely....The victims of violent crimes committed by people here illegally...ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN DEPORTED MULTIPLE TIMES.....are victims of both the criminal and of our Government's inability to control our borders. Those crimes should never have happened because those criminals should not be here.
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Originally posted by: forkushV
"Crime has fallen even as the proportion of Americans born on foreign soil has grown, and as rates of unauthorised immigration have gone up..."

"Cities of concentrated immigration are some of the safest places around."


Umm, . . . maybe the American-born criminals are just afraid to go out at night in areas of "concentrated immigration".

SHOCKER!

Parents of woman shot at pier support strict immigration law

https://news.yahoo.com/parents-woman-shot-pier-back-strict-immigration-law-231003962.html#

"SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The parents of a woman shot to death on a San Francisco pier said Monday in a cable television news interview that they support a proposal to give mandatory prison time to deported people who return to the U.S. illegally..."

This is getting so out of hand, I don't understand what people aren't seeing about the problems with the illegal immigrants(pick a country) and the problems is causing for this country. The left wants to coddle them for votes, they don't give a shit what is truly good for the country. To be fair hre, neither does the other side.
I still can't wrap my head around these "sanctuary cities" that are in direct violation of the law but you get other cities and states that actually try and stick with the law and dod something about illegals and they get criminalized by the feds! AZ comes to mind, there was a big battle that of course the feds won. Why aren't the feds criminalizing these sanctuary cities?
It bears repeating. From The Economist, four days ago:

"Crime has fallen even as the proportion of Americans born on foreign soil has grown, and as rates of unauthorised immigration have gone up..."

"...crunching the numbers turns up "essentially no correlation between immigrants and violent crime."

"...increases in immigration and language diversity over the decade of the 1990s predicted decreases in neighborhood homicide rates in the late '90s and up to 2006."

"...Mexican immigrants are less prone to violence than native-born Americans, whites or black, of comparable age and socio-economic status."

"Cities of concentrated immigration are some of the safest places around."

"American white guys with high-school diplomas are more likely to get tossed in the can than Guatemalan or Honduran fellows without them."


So for those of you who claimed or inferred that illegal immigrants commit more crimes, I'll just chalk your attitude up to profound ignorance on the subject. But next time you say it, you'll just be lying.


Reagan's little bit was supposed to strengthen the boarder and then enforce the laws so no new illegals could come in.

The argument keeps coming up that illegals do the jobs no one wants...like drywall and brick layers, roofers, and cooks.

Last I recall, union wages for a brick layer used to run $29.00/hr - no one can live on that kind of money nowadays
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Originally posted by: forkushV
It bears repeating. From The Economist, four days ago:

"Crime has fallen even as the proportion of Americans born on foreign soil has grown, and as rates of unauthorised immigration have gone up..."

"...crunching the numbers turns up "essentially no correlation between immigrants and violent crime."

"...increases in immigration and language diversity over the decade of the 1990s predicted decreases in neighborhood homicide rates in the late '90s and up to 2006."

"...Mexican immigrants are less prone to violence than native-born Americans, whites or black, of comparable age and socio-economic status."

"Cities of concentrated immigration are some of the safest places around."

"American white guys with high-school diplomas are more likely to get tossed in the can than Guatemalan or Honduran fellows without them."


So for those of you who claimed or inferred that illegal immigrants commit more crimes, I'll just chalk your attitude up to profound ignorance on the subject. But next time you say it, you'll just be lying.




OK then Forkie let me ask you a straight up question then, tossing everything aside. Why do you think the current laws shouldn't be enforced against these sanctuary cities? What is it exactly that puts them above the law?

And if you want a bonus round. Why should those here illegally now be put ahead of those that hve been waiting legally for Lord knows how long?




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Originally posted by: chefantwon
Reagan's little bit was supposed to strengthen the boarder and then enforce the laws so no new illegals could come in.

The argument keeps coming up that illegals do the jobs no one wants...like drywall and brick layers, roofers, and cooks.

Last I recall, union wages for a brick layer used to run $29.00/hr - no one can live on that kind of money nowadays


Skilled carpenters were $35 and way up from there, not anymore, and I've been outta the biz for a awhile but still have friends in. Don't even think about trying to bid a drywall or paint job, you won't even come close.

I got a contract doing the cabinets in 12 unit condo buildings and I went in after the drywallers who had been there the previous day/evening and there was always one unit that was always absolutely disgusting. They would use the w/d closet (that was at the end of the galley kitchen) for their toilet.I would have to hang all my cabinets smelling that foulness all morning. Man the super was pissed too but they kept doing it it, we didn't get it. He'd make 'em go clean it, but it didn't stop 'em. Go figure, there were porta pottys right on site.

Nearly 25% of the inmates in California are illegals. Nearly 10% of the inmates in Texas are illegals. If we had a closed border many of these people would not have been allowed in.

If people want to come here, get a work visa. All people want here is for people to follow the law and pay taxes.

Why do liberals see this as a problem?

What other country allows for such a large illegal immigrant population? Does Mexico?
Does anyone remember the Cuban boatlift? They sent us all their criminals and mentally ill. We spent millions sending these criminals to our prisons. There was a prison riot in Atlanta, the prison was overtaken by the Cubans when they found out we would send them back. That was the fabled Carter administration that had an "open-arms" policy for Cuban refugees. It took over 10 years to clean up this mess.
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