Speech Suppression

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Originally posted by: hoops2
Both groups have the right to demonstrate but not at the expense of another group. Liberals think their message is more important than people with differing views who should be quiet.


Wrong. Being rude is fully protected by Free Speech. And if you're going to be supporting a candidate that openly embraces politically incorrect rhetoric then you should try not to be so thin skinned. That is - unless you subscribe to letter "E" on DonDiego's chart of free speech discourse.
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Originally posted by: billryan
Perhaps if you could explain to me why you think the rights of those gathered at a political rally are more important than those of demonstrators, we might be able to have an exchange, but stamping your foot and voting no does nothing to expand the discussion.

I don't think it's a matter of constitutional rights...as these folks have a right to peacefully protest (until they're trespassed). It's a matter of right and wrong. It's wrong for a group to try to suppress the speech of its political opponents....because eventually they'll do the same to your team and then there will be no political speech in public at all. It would be better if they just hold their own political rally.

It's also wrong for the Westboro Baptist Church to protest at funerals, because they are hateful, hurtful, ingrates hiding behind first amendment in order to get publicity. All they care about is themselves...much like those who are interrupting other people's events.

I'd rather fight this out at the ballot box or in the realm of free debate of ideas rather than seeing who can scream louder or make it to the speaker and grab the microphone or who can be the most disruptive or vindictive.
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
My greater point is this: In a society where money and special interests frequently drown out the voices of the greater public people have two ways to respond: peaceful protests or violent protests. Liberals have a long and proud history of doing the former. Tea partiers are more likely to engage in the latter - .....and now they have a candidate that is egging them on. See the myriad of examples I posted.

Reluctantly DonDiego must agree with pjstroh. The Ten Biggest Riots in America were all caused by Conservative Sons-of-Bitches !

__August 1965 - Watts
Conservatives protest the arrest of Marquette Frye for suspected driving under the influence; riots result.
34 dead
$321-million in damages

__July 1967 - Newark
Conservatives protest the arrest of cabdriver John Weerd Smith for improperly passing a police cruiser.
Conservatives engage in looting, arson, and vandalism over 6 days.
26 dead
$102-million in damages

__July 1967 - Detroit
Subsequent to a police raid on an unlicensed bar Conservatives engage in looting, vandalism, and arson. After two days President Lyndon B. Johnson declares a state of insurrection against the government and calls in 8000 National Guardsmen and 4,700 paratroopers who fight alongside the local police against an estimated 10,000 rioters.
43 dead
$289-million in damages

__April 1968 - New York City
Conservatives loot, vandalize and set fires.
0 dead
$ 26-million in damages

__April 1968 - Chicago
Conservatives loot, vandalize, and burn White-owned stores.
9 dead
$ 86-million in damages

__April 1968 - Baltimore
Conservatives burn, loot, and vandalize the City.
6 dead
$ 92-million in damages

__April 1968 - Washington D.C.
Conservative violence results in 6,000 arrests, 1,000 injured citizens, 1200 buildings burned. 3,600 Federal troops and 1,750 from the National Guard represent the largest occupation of a US city since the Civil War.
12 dead
$158-million in damages

__July 1977 - New York City
Within 24 hours immediately following an electrical blackout throughout the City, over 1600 stores were looted and damaged, and over a thousand fires burned, . . . all caused by evil Conservatives.
0 dead
$106-million in damages

__May 1980 - Miami
Following the death of a man in police custody after a high-speed chase police respond to arson, thefts, looting and sniper fire by Conservaties for 3 days. 3500 National Guardsmen restore order.
18 dead
$181-million in damages

__April 1992 - Los Angeles
After a high speed chase resulted in the arrest of Rodney King, who later admitted he had been driving while under the influence of alcohol and feared an arrest for DUI would violate the terms of his parole, . . . and after the arrest is televised, Conservatives engage in the largest and most violent riot since the New York Draft Riots of the 19th Century. 3700 buildings are burned. 10,000 National Guard troops and nearly 2,000 local officers deploy to quell random acts of violence, destruction, robbery and mob assault, under Martial Law and a dawn-to-dusk curfew. The riots last 6 days.
58 dead
$1.27-billion in damages

*****EDITED TO CHANGE THE DATE OF THE DETROIT RIOT FROM 1987 TO 1967*****


Your sheet is showing.

Aside from the obvious racism intended here, i'm fairly certain LBJ was ,in fact, and not President in July of 1987

"Wrong. Being rude is fully protected by Free Speech"

That is not what happened last Friday as the police could not guarantee the safety of Trump. And being rude by shouting down people trying to make a speech of an opposing viewpoint (which is what happens in colleges) is wrong.

It is obvious by all the dancing here, liberals feel this behavior is correct (as long as their guy isn't the victim)
More free speech? Goes a bit far methinks. Seriously, this is just way too far. I really hope they catch the assholes who did it.

Trump fans rally for Gainesville woman targeted by vandals


"Judy Beaty, a Donald Trump supporter whose Gainesville home was vandalized with spray paint earlier this week, says she has no plans to dial back her efforts to promote the controversial GOP frontrunner.

On Sunday, a group of about 40 fellow Trump fans held a rally of support in Beaty’s front yard, calling the incident “domestic terrorism” and blaming Democrats.

“You know, the Democrats state all the time that they are pro-women and pro-middle class, but yet they incite acts of domestic terrorism against a widow [and] small business owner,” said rally organizer and local GOP activist Donna Widawski. “It’s … them and their rhetoric that’s fueling these acts of terrorism. So shame on them...”

https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/trump-fans-rally-for-gainesville-woman-targeted-by-vandals/article_28b16218-e967-11e5-8a43-5b13eb3a9f4d.html
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Originally posted by: jatki99

“You know, the Democrats state all the time that they are pro-women and pro-middle class, but yet they incite acts of domestic terrorism against a widow [and] small business owner,” said rally organizer and local GOP activist Donna Widawski. “It’s … them and their rhetoric that’s fueling these acts of terrorism. So shame on them...”

How do they know it wasn't a buddy of 'Little Marco'?

People have as much right to boo as they do to cheer.
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: jatki99

“You know, the Democrats state all the time that they are pro-women and pro-middle class, but yet they incite acts of domestic terrorism against a widow [and] small business owner,” said rally organizer and local GOP activist Donna Widawski. “It’s … them and their rhetoric that’s fueling these acts of terrorism. So shame on them...”

How do they know it wasn't a buddy of 'Little Marco'?



Could be. I think Cruz's people would be more prone to do something like this though. Or maybe not. Could be Bernie's' army or whatever they call themselves.
A-HA, a clue! Somehow I missed this when I read the article. I think it mat point a finger as to who did it. I doubt it was little Marco or Teddy's folks.

"..The word “revolution” was left on the side of the home. The phrase, “can you see the new world through the tear gas” remained scrawled in drippy black paint on the front, just beneath Beaty’s bedroom window.."
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