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Originally posted by: Area51
Too bad people choose a long term solution to a short term problem. But then, I guess it's long term to them if they can never escape the depression.
There is a significant distinction in this man's case:
Did he have the standard type of clinical depression?
Or did he fit the profile of the maladaptive hostile aggressor who may be driven to mass-murder suicide? Given the information so far, and from that video, he fit this much more dangerous, disordered personality profile, with similarities to what is now known about the German pilot to drove his plane into the mountain.
Those with the standard profile of depression alone are more likely to commit a suicidal act alone and not harm others in the process.
Identified traits of a persons who have committed mass murder suicide:
- aggression and hostility
- mood disorder and personality disorder
- emotional distortions
- history of mental anguish, often extending back to childhood
- narcissistic
- powerful sense of entitlement
- sense of victimhood, driven to punish "tormentors" (boss, co-workers, authority figures, classmates (bullies?, failed romance, etc.)
- grandiosity, believe/want to be remembered for a grand and glorious accomplishment
- history of mental health treatment
These traits have been developed through forensic examinations from manifestos and personal accounts after mass murder/suicides with notes, diaries, etc. left behind. Columbine and other school mass murders are examples. Unfortunately, the "red flags" are more often pieced together after the murderous act.
The guy who committed suicide at M expressed in his DVD:
- anguish from being bullied in childhood;
- entitlement to the free meals;
- emotional distortion about the employee whom he stalked;
- sense of "victimhood", of not being advised of M policy and thus "kicked out" (likely not the whole story on that);
- sought to have his complaints aired publicly by a reporter;
- insured that his suicide would be widely known and remembered;
- reportedly had been hospitalized for mental health evaluation and/or treatment.
He wanted to punish M by killing himself on the property. Otherwise he would have done it privately (in his home, car, etc.). He also insured that the world would know about this by sending the lengthy writings and DVD to the newspaper.
M is lucky he didn't take others out before himself.
One thing that bothers me a lot: If I understood it correctly, he conversed with police regarding his being suicidal, which was very badly handled. Did I hear that dispatcher tell him they couldn't address his problem because he wasn't in their jurisdiction and rapidly blurt out a phone number of another agency, the a quick goodbye and hung up? If so, that has to be investigated and corrected. Personnel of every law enforcement agency should have the authority, and training, to talk to a suicidal caller while getting a car to find him and bring him in for help, and/or at the very least transfer that call to a suicide hotline where there are people trained to help. A truly suicidal person cannot process an unfamiliar phone number spewed out so quickly like that.
