Super Bowl XLIX Odds

If the Pats are guilty, the NFL probably doesn't want to deal with what punishment to mete out prior to the game (people will want suspensions for the game).

There will be less controversy if they announce sometime after the game
Can happycamper explain why only one team's balls were deflated? Were the atmospheric conditions different on the other side of the field?

A reporter did a test and found that he could deflate 12 balls in less than 90 seconds
Yet the ball handler apparently didn't wash his hands after deflation.

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Originally posted by: hoops2
Can happycamper explain why only one team's balls were deflated? Were the atmospheric conditions different on the other side of the field?

A reporter did a test and found that he could deflate 12 balls in less than 90 seconds


This is officially the first Superbowl where I'm more interested in the commercials than the game. I might flip over to some Matlock reruns in between commercial sets.

Just like Spygate, this is more about the Patriots being hated than engaging in illegal behavior.
Yesterday Howie Long stated that the Pats were not the only team recording sidelines, that many were doing it.
They however were the only ones punished.
Then this on ball deflation

— A former Jets quarterback has come to the Patriots’ defense — sort of — claiming deflating footballs is such a common practice that “every team does it, every game.”

Jeff Blake, who started his career with the Jets in 1992 and went on to play for the Bengals, Saints, Ravens and Bears before retiring after the 2005 season, made his claim during a radio interview Wednesday with Nashville’s 104.5 The Zone.

“I’m just going to let the cat out of the bag, every team does it, every game, it has been since I played,” said Blake, who made the Pro Bowl as a Bengal in 1995. ” ‘Cause when you take the balls out of the bag, they are rock hard. And you can’t feel the ball as well. It’s too hard.

“Everybody puts the pin in and takes just enough air out of the ball that you can feel it a little better. But it’s not the point to where it’s flat. So I don’t know what the big deal is. It’s not something that’s not been done for 20 years.”

Blake said he used to order ball boys to let the air out of his footballs just before games throughout his time in the NFL.

“Well, I would say [to a ball boy], ‘Take a little bit of air out of it. It’s a little bit hard.’ ” Blake said. “And then he’d take a little bit out and I’d squeeze it and I’d be like, ‘OK, it’s perfect.’ That’s it.”

Added Blake: “I guess it wasn’t a big deal back then, but it is now.”

— While we’re on the topic of Deflategate, apparently the practice is not limited to football.

Knicks president Phil Jackson admitted in a 1986 Chicago Tribune article that his Knicks championship teams of the early 1970s used to deaden the basketballs in order to compensate for New York’s lack of height.

Jackson claimed it helped the team’s rebounding.

“What we used to do was deflate the ball,” Jackson said in the story. “We were a short team with our big guys like Willis [Reed], our center, only about 6-8 and Jerry Lucas also 6-8. [Dave] DeBusschere, 6-6. So what we had to rely on was boxing out and hoping the rebound didn’??t go long.

“To help ensure that, we’??d try to take some air out of the ball. You see, on the ball it says something like ‘inflate to 7 to 9 pounds.’ We’??d all carry pins and take the air out to deaden the ball.”

Added Jackson: “It also helped our offense because we were a team that liked to pass the ball without dribbling it, so it didn’??t matter how much air was in the ball. It also kept other teams from running on us because when they’??d dribble the ball, it wouldn’??t come up so fast.”
I disagree. They cheated and that's what stirred the hornets nest.


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Originally posted by: nuggetboy
Just like Spygate, this is more about the Patriots being hated than engaging in illegal behavior.
Yesterday Howie Long stated that the Pats were not the only team recording sidelines, that many were doing it.
They however were the only ones punished.
Then this on ball deflation

— A former Jets quarterback has come to the Patriots’ defense — sort of — claiming deflating footballs is such a common practice that “every team does it, every game.”

Jeff Blake, who started his career with the Jets in 1992 and went on to play for the Bengals, Saints, Ravens and Bears before retiring after the 2005 season, made his claim during a radio interview Wednesday with Nashville’s 104.5 The Zone.

“I’m just going to let the cat out of the bag, every team does it, every game, it has been since I played,” said Blake, who made the Pro Bowl as a Bengal in 1995. ” ‘Cause when you take the balls out of the bag, they are rock hard. And you can’t feel the ball as well. It’s too hard.

“Everybody puts the pin in and takes just enough air out of the ball that you can feel it a little better. But it’s not the point to where it’s flat. So I don’t know what the big deal is. It’s not something that’s not been done for 20 years.”

Blake said he used to order ball boys to let the air out of his footballs just before games throughout his time in the NFL.

“Well, I would say [to a ball boy], ‘Take a little bit of air out of it. It’s a little bit hard.’ ” Blake said. “And then he’d take a little bit out and I’d squeeze it and I’d be like, ‘OK, it’s perfect.’ That’s it.”

Added Blake: “I guess it wasn’t a big deal back then, but it is now.”

— While we’re on the topic of Deflategate, apparently the practice is not limited to football.

Knicks president Phil Jackson admitted in a 1986 Chicago Tribune article that his Knicks championship teams of the early 1970s used to deaden the basketballs in order to compensate for New York’s lack of height.

Jackson claimed it helped the team’s rebounding.

“What we used to do was deflate the ball,” Jackson said in the story. “We were a short team with our big guys like Willis [Reed], our center, only about 6-8 and Jerry Lucas also 6-8. [Dave] DeBusschere, 6-6. So what we had to rely on was boxing out and hoping the rebound didn’??t go long.

“To help ensure that, we’??d try to take some air out of the ball. You see, on the ball it says something like ‘inflate to 7 to 9 pounds.’ We’??d all carry pins and take the air out to deaden the ball.”

Added Jackson: “It also helped our offense because we were a team that liked to pass the ball without dribbling it, so it didn’??t matter how much air was in the ball. It also kept other teams from running on us because when they’??d dribble the ball, it wouldn’??t come up so fast.”


Blake doesn't say that they deflated the balls below the league minimum.

Don't know the Knicks could have deflated the ball since the ball stays with the official
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Originally posted by: hoops2
Blake doesn't say that they deflated the balls below the league minimum.

Don't know the Knicks could have deflated the ball since the ball stays with the official



Right, Blake is talking about "Everyone doing it" regarding ball deflation and the Patriots but of course means that every other team deflates within the league range.
Right, Phil Jackson just made up the whole thing with a full explanation of why they did it and the advantages.

You believe what you want despite logic.
During all play stoppages, the officals have control of the basketballs. jackson doesn't explain how the Knicks could have gotten the ball to deflate it.
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To maintain the legitimacy of this year's NFL Championship the Patriots should be immediately disqualified and the two teams they beat to advance should be allowed to continue with the playoff process. The AFC championship should be replayed to determine a rightful representative for the AFC in this year's Super Bowl.
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If one chooses one can now join over 65,000 of one's peers and sign a petition declaring the above sentiment at change.org .

For the record DonDiego has not, does not, and likely will not choose to sign online petitions. But he recognizes the right of others to do so.
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