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Originally posted by: forkushV
Maybe he's evolved.
Originally posted by: forkushV
Maybe he's evolved.
From Adam and Eve to Adam and Steve?
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Originally posted by: chefantwon
In a truly legal sense, they didn't have much of a choice. The separate but equal bit has been tried and was proven to be a looser.
While the process was shortened considerably it was an outcome to be expected based upon the arguments. This should have been handled by the states, however they had to get the federal government involved and that's where the issue was certain to allow gay marriage. That's why the decent was so vocal, the court is not to create law but decide if the law passes Constitutional muster.
In this case, they created law.
QuoteWould someone please explain to chefantwon that cases that preceded the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution are essentially irrelevant to the interpretation of the rights guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution? It's something he doesn't know.
Originally posted by: chefantwon
Why don't you look at the court cases and laws which led up to the 14th amendment. There were a bunch of steps that were skipped in this case where the federal government never got to decide anything here.
QuoteWould someone please explain to chefantwon that Obergefell v. Hodges is purely a constitutional case, in that it concerns the nature of rights guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution? It's something he doesn't know.
Originally posted by: chefantwon
Constitutional rights? Gee the court never had a constitutional case here, it was never before the feds in any reguard.
QuoteWould someone please explain to chefantwon that Obergefell v. Hodges and its associated cases, decided Friday, concerned the constitutionality of certain state laws restricting marriage equality, and whether lower federal courts had decided those cases correctly? It's something he doesn't know.
Originally posted by: chefantwon
Simply, there was no federal decision on any law about gay marriage.
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Originally posted by: chefantwon
Can Forkie tell me what federal law signed by a President of the United States was being debated in the Supreme Court concerning gay marriage?
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Originally posted by: forkushVQuoteAre you referring to:
Originally posted by: chefantwon
In a truly legal sense, they didn't have much of a choice. The separate but equal bit has been tried and was proven to be a looser.
While the process was shortened considerably it was an outcome to be expected based upon the arguments. This should have been handled by the states, however they had to get the federal government involved and that's where the issue was certain to allow gay marriage. That's why the decent was so vocal, the court is not to create law but decide if the law passes Constitutional muster.
In this case, they created law.2015, Obergefell v. Hodges, which made same-sex marriage legal in all 50 states, or... 1968, Loving v. Virginia, which made interracial marriage legal in all 50 states.
Constitutional rights trump any law. I guess you didn't know that.
QuoteAnd George Wallace stood in the schoolhouse door.
Originally posted by: snidely333
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton calls the Supreme Court decision giving same-sex couples the right to marry a "lawless ruling" and says state workers can cite their religious objections in denying marriage licenses...
